nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $42.60
MP: $74.20
CO: $99.50
Hero (BTN): $99.50
SB: $97.65
BB: $193.35

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 4http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.50</font>, BB calls $12.50

River: ($42.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $31</font>, Hero...




Villain is GenTaoChicken. I've got about 400 hands with him running at 21/17/3.5, seems like a pretty average TAG but I don't know if hes good or not. Is he bluffing here enough of the time to call?

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

I don't think so. I'm ambivalent about the turn bet too. I guess you can go bet/bet/(check/fold) or bet /check/call.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

this guy is ok, used to play 1/2 looks like a fold

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

value town.. fold

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

Also, did you look him up? I'd be interested in finding out what a 21/17 plays this way.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

he just realized you prob dont have the last Ace and is v-towning you with AXs

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

checking the turn is weaksauce, i miss value from all the draws

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

ive played with him... pretty decent. this is never a bluff imo

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

does anyone know if he's 2p2? i folded fwiw so no results [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

nah this is a fold. i like a flop check too.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

I think this is a fold too. Your turn bet is good imo, he can call with lower pairs or draws

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

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checking the turn is weaksauce, i miss value from all the draws

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i folded fwiw so no results [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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So basically the draws pawned you.

Betting when you can't stand any heat from draws doesn't gain value against good aggro players, it loses value.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

I check turn and call a river blank(depending on betsize). I'm not sure, but I don't think he is calling small Ax type hands out of position. Big Ax type hands, he might reraise.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

looks like a value town, i fold.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

I call. I doubt he check-calls the flop with TP+.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

If you had potted flop and turn i'd say fold; but because of your flop, turn bet sizes i'm more tempted to call. We're in stealing position preflop and any weakness we show is an excuse for villain to pounce. I'm not criticizing your bet sizing i'm just saying you should be more open to calling his river donk because of it.

Re: nl100 - KK on two ace board gets river donked by TAG
 

Hero has repped an ace the whole way through, now villain is trying to make us fold that and you want to call? Any big A should be calling river, and a decent TAG should know that.