Lay AA here?
$10 midnight madness. Too early for real read on villian.
I figured with him potting the flop, he already has a made hand of some sort and not a draw, so I decide to call rather than shove and see if he'd slow down on the turn. Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com BB (t2600) UTG (t3345) UTG+1 (t4035) MP1 (t1265) MP2 (t4305) MP3 (t6515) CO (t1295) Hero (t2690) SB (t1540) Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t160, UTG calls t160, MP2 calls t160. Flop: (t820) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t820</font>, Hero calls t820, BB folds, UTG folds. Turn: (t2460) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t2460</font>, Hero |
Re: Lay AA here?
Shove flop. As played, I make a crying call.
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I would have shoved on the flop. The Q on the turn sucks, but he could easily have AJ or KJ, only thing I would be worried about here is QJ since people love that hand. I would call though, especially considering the pot size compared to your stack.
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Re: Lay AA here?
Hero shoves flop. As played i guess you call.
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Re: Lay AA here?
I can't see a reason for ever calling on that flop. A straightening board like that with all of the fish that play in the Midnight Madness is one of the last flops you wanna see. If you think he has a made hand like two pair, fold. I would shove that every time, though. I would never ever call, however. Push or fold.
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Re: Lay AA here?
As others have said, raise all-in on flop. Why did you just call? You left yourself with only ~1600!!
You have ~1600 left on the turn and are getting ~4000:1600 = 5:2 on your money... I wouldn't be able to fold unless it was a satellite or I had a strong read. |
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Shove flop. As played, I make a crying call. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Shove flop. There's not much point seeing if he'll slow down on turn because we're calling on the turn getting 5:2 anyway, we just have too much equity against his range which has to include some sort've TP or draw hands. Definitely calling turn despite it being a fairly bad card.
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Re: Lay AA here?
I would call here, but I would not like it. MP2 called $160 into a $660 pot. He could most definitely be playing with T9 here, but with the odds being offered, there is little choice.
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Re: Lay AA here?
Make it 240 preflop. Raise all in on the flop.
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Make it 240 preflop. Raise all in on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] halp - why 240? What's the advantage of 240 vs. the 200 that he made it? (3Xbb + 2bb for limpers vs. 4xbb + 2bb for limpers) OT |
Re: Lay AA here?
This is an odd hand. Let's start by putting villain on a hand. To lead out in this spot, he has at least tp. He could have possibly hit top 2 as well. As for 9-10 or a set, I think alot of players at this limit c/r or slow play. And I think we can exclude QQ-KK here. My range for villain is QJ+(most realistic considering flop bet) J8-J7... with a slight possibility of a set. I give most credit to AJ-KJ. I think you should have shoved this flop too... as played I don't know whether to call or fold. In these spots, being so early, I'll take the chance alot of the time. If i'm ko'd, I'll just be happy that I got out early and not on the bubble, fire up another one, and repeat in that order for the next 6 hours.
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[ QUOTE ] Make it 240 preflop. Raise all in on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] halp - why 240? What's the advantage of 240 vs. the 200 that he made it? (3Xbb + 2bb for limpers vs. 4xbb + 2bb for limpers) OT [/ QUOTE ]In the very early stages levels 1 and 2 when stacks are still pretty deep I like 4xbb + 2 for limpers. I think that in the earlier stages you can get more value from loose callers who will call anyway, magnifying their mistake. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Make it 240 preflop. Raise all in on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] halp - why 240? What's the advantage of 240 vs. the 200 that he made it? (3Xbb + 2bb for limpers vs. 4xbb + 2bb for limpers) OT [/ QUOTE ]In the very early stages levels 1 and 2 when stacks are still pretty deep I like 4xbb + 2 for limpers. I think that in the earlier stages you can get more value from loose callers who will call anyway, magnifying their mistake. [/ QUOTE ]Meh, that's just personal preference, the 200 bet is the least questionable play. |
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