Puke
 

Unknown villain, just sat, HUD not up yet. We need to be right > 19% here. WTF

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $219.90
UTG: $360.20
Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $198

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12

Turn: ($41) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, BB calls $32

River: ($105) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $72</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $167.90 and is All-In</font>,

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ugh so gross.

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yah, sooo sick.
i dont think i can ever fold here b/c i cant put him on a hand.

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yah, sooo sick.
i dont think i can ever fold here b/c i cant put him on a hand.

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This combined with the 19% thing. Probably some bizzare 2 pair. Gross.

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unknown villain and a very weird line, I think i make a crying call here and hope he is doing something weird more than 1 in 5 times. Looking at his line, I dont c what he could have and most normal players always raise turn with a strong hand (and they should) so it seems hes probably strange and I think the odds hes doing something strange r greater than 19% but still pretty gross.

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yah, sooo sick.
i dont think i can ever fold here b/c i cant put him on a hand.

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Before I called (ldo), It's gotta be As3s, super-slow played set, or random donk whatever hand.

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Puke is right. I don't think you're ever really good here...but I'm a station and can't really put him on a hand either. If he checked a set 3 times, he deserves my money.

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sick odds and all, unknown villains dont turn up with &lt; 2pair here often and all.

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this board is pretty dry, I can see villain slowplaying a set here.

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Foooollllllddd, but its so tough to hit that button.

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I've seen villains do this with AT or similar hands. But I doubt it's &gt; 19% in this case.

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Fold and I've learnt my lesson the hard way about river c/shoves from unknowns.

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this board is pretty dry, I can see villain slowplaying a set here.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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this board is pretty dry, I can see villain slowplaying a set here.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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I strongly disagree with betting less.

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this board is pretty dry, I can see villain slowplaying a set here.

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by the turn the board is not very dry and most villains will raise sets there id say instead of going into the river oop with a lot of possible ugly cards and no idea where ur at.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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I disagree. Bet sizing is perfect IMO.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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I disagree. Bet sizing is perfect IMO.

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Huh. Nice to see everybody giving their reasoning.

Read the post's title. Think a bit about what it means when you get yourself in that spot.

Or not, what do I care.

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this board is pretty dry, I can see villain slowplaying a set here.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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I strongly disagree with betting less.

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You wouldn't happen to have any actual reasons?

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sigh and fold. its really hard tho.


sometimes i like to rotate the mouse in a circle really fast between the two and jsut close my eyes and click, although sometimes i then miss and click another table [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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sigh and fold. its really hard tho

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70% of pot gets looked up at the same rate as 55-60% of pot, meaning it has a higher EV.

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Agreed. I'd really think about the bet sizing here because he's either going to have something weak (and we want to keep him in), or have us crushed (and we lose less). Less on turn, less on river, then it's an easy fold to a raise.

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bet sizing is good, your reasoning isn't.

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The fact that it's 4 handed and you have the btn makes it closer to a call... but not enough. foldaroo

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you're like never good here but I don't hink I can fold an overpair getting 4 to 1....
Call, cry, make a note ??

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sigh and fold. its really hard tho

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Fold. Betsizing is standard. We'll get called down by Tx alot and I don't think betting slightly less will not have much impact on villain's calling frequency with PPs.

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Foooollllllddd, but its so tough to hit that button.

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bet sizing is fine, gl finding the fold button at the end

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hmmm does villain ever have two pair here? what are we doing with T8 or 22 in this spot? if we ever consider folding those hands, isn't villain's line highly profitable with ATC? i realize he's not thinking that way in all likelihood but still...

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easy fold.

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hmmm does villain ever have two pair here? what are we doing with T8 or 22 in this spot? if we ever consider folding those hands, isn't villain's line highly profitable with ATC? i realize he's not thinking that way in all likelihood but still...

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no, sorry. cc BB vs. btn open, c/c 2 streets just so you can c/r the river is def not profitable w/ ATC.

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fold, then go on crazy monkey tilt a couple rounds later when you realize villain is 90/50/8.

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only read half of this, but

pineapple really is tremendously douchey for someone who is absolutely below avg in every form of poker

and yes, slam your fist on the table and fold. but slam like rly hard cuz you want him to know how much it sucks that yr folding

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Edit: Oops nvm this was the wrong thread, i was commenting on the other hand he posted.

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It's not necessarily about people being that passive so much as it is really [censored] hard to find a hand that he could be bluffing with here. For me anyway.