TAG vs LAG stats?
 

Can someone please explain to me the stats of TAG vs. LAG using VPIP, preflop raise %, and post flop aggression factor?

Thank you.

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My opinion would be LAG around 30/20 and TAG around 22/18. The TAG can really be down to around 18/15 if he is really "nit"-ish though.
The aggression will be similar, with TAG maybe a little more aggressive. There is a lot more to the 2 styles of play than just the stats though.

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yes I am more interested on what the typical VPIP and preflop raise run at. I'm new to PokerAceHud and PT, but not new to the game..looking to increase my knowledge with regards to quickly being able to spot if a player is LAG or TAG, or in between...Thank you.

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It depends on whether it's full ring or 6-max. For 6-max I'd say a TAG is about 18/14, SLAG is 22/18 and LAG 27/23. Anything over that is probably a big leak unless your CTS. If they're all AG then AF should be similar.

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In NL tourneys, I'm a TAG and I'm about 15/10/3.0.

I used to have higher pf% but I am limping more and playing more flops. In medium buyin tourneys, I find the implied odds very good.

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Great thread here... should be exactly what you're looking for.

Thread

Note that this is for limit, but I think ranges should be applicable for no-limit as well.

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Well it depeneds IMO, I play about 30/25 or so, but that is because I play deep stacked on AP. Which means you can play lag because you prob. wont be going all in with just top pair.

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what is the aggression factor usually for a TAG/LAG?

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No less than 2.0.

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what is the aggression factor usually for a TAG/LAG?

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No less than 2.0.

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So someone less than 2 we would classify as very passive?

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No less than 2.0.

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So someone less than 2 we would classify as very passive?

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Not necessarily, though in my opinion you should keep your AF above 2.0.

Here's where I would put the ranges:

Below 0.5 Very passive
0.5 - 1.0 Passive
1.0 - 1.5 Neither passive nor aggressive
1.5 - 2.0 Somewhat aggressive
Over 2.0 Aggressive

Originally I was going to put 3.0 down as "very aggressive" and 4.0 as "kamikaze," but in general the difference between 2.5 and 3.2 is much less than 0.5 and 1.2. As long as your AF isn't manically high, anything above 2.0 is good.

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Aggression factor is a bad measure of aggression. It is simply the ratio of bets (and raises) to calls. As such it is possible for a player to have a very high aggression factor just by not calling very frequently - even though they don't bet (or raise) frequently either. Aggression frequency is a much better measure of aggression.

Lucky

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Aggression factor is a bad measure of aggression. It is simply the ratio of bets (and raises) to calls. As such it is possible for a player to have a very high aggression factor just by not calling very frequently - even though they don't bet (or raise) frequently either. Aggression frequency is a much better measure of aggression.

Lucky

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How is aggr. frequency calculated? What numbers would you use to classify an opponent?

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Aggression factor is a bad measure of aggression. It is simply the ratio of bets (and raises) to calls. As such it is possible for a player to have a very high aggression factor just by not calling very frequently - even though they don't bet (or raise) frequently either. Aggression frequency is a much better measure of aggression.

Lucky

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How is aggr. frequency calculated? What numbers would you use to classify an opponent?

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Aggression frequency is just the percent of the time someone bets (or raises) when it is their turn to act.

I typically don't go about classifying people - but if I an aggression frequency but aggressive players typically have by street frequencies around 30% and 50% (and maybe higher on the flop depending on their pre-flop game).

I've actually gone away from using a HUD lately because I think I play better without it. With the HUD on I tend to weight the player too much at the expense of the situation.

Lucky

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Another thing to keep in mind is a person's VPIP when looking at their aggression factor (or frequency).

A person with a VPIP of 50%, but with an aggression factor of 2 is probably a maniac. But someone with a VPIP of 12% and a AF of 2 is quite passive.

In practical terms, it means the guy who has a VPIP of 50% (who has a wide range of starting hands) is raising the same ratio of times as the guy who only has a VPIP of 12% (and is only playing premium hands).

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If they have a VPIP of 12-18 and af of 3-4+, this is TAG?

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Yes, I would definitely say that's TAG.