I have 3 cards
 

Playing in a usual friendly 20/40 game at the Borgata last Saturday night.


There's a bunch of folds and the Cutoff raises, button folds, sb folds, and I toss in four chips from the big blind to call.

I place a white chip on my two cards and the flop is dealt.

I check call the flop.

I bet the turn he calls.
I bet the river he calls.

I reach around my chips to grab my cards and somehow feel that there are now three cards in front of my chips all face down.

I say "wait! I'm not doing anything but I have three cards."

The dealer doesn't know what to do.

I say "I know what I'm supposed to have. I'm supposed to have K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]"

She calls the floor who looks a little dumbfounded.

Someone attests that I had scooped up all three only at showdown and that prior to the river the random card had been seperate from my two cards.

What is the ruling?

Re: I have 3 cards
 

I think your hand is dead.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

You have a dead hand. Either you were dealt three cards or you didn't protect your hand from having a card mucked into it.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

i dont get what happened. if you were absentminded enough to either
a) have 3 cards the whole time and not say anything or
b) grab an extra card from the muck

i dont think you deserve any portion of the pot.

if something else, then maybe

Re: I have 3 cards
 

I wish I could draw a diagram.

I had my two cards with a chip ontop of them in front of my chips.

There was a random other card to the left of my chipstack.

When I went to turn over my hand I grabbed the first card (assuming it was mine) and also grabbed my cards (looking for the second card).

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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I wish I could draw a diagram.

I had my two cards with a chip ontop of them in front of my chips.

There was a random other card to the left of my chipstack.

When I went to turn over my hand I grabbed the first card (assuming it was mine) and also grabbed my cards (looking for the second card).

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You need to be more careful what you grab. If there is just a random card laying there the dealer or floor can just take it and muck it. Once you grab it it is in with your cards.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

Tell the floor you thought we were playing crazy pineapple.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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I think your hand is dead.

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Re: I have 3 cards
 

BTW, I need to play 20/40 if calling a preflop raise with K7s is standard.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

I'm afraid you're SOL. Once you have three cards, no matter how it happened, your hand is dead.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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What is the ruling?

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Do you really have to ask?

Re: I have 3 cards
 

Sorry your hand it dead ...


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BTW, I need to play 20/40 if calling a preflop raise with K7s is standard.

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You need to play 2-4 if you think it is not.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

hand dead although if the game is very friendly you might convince the other people who played the pot for each to take their money.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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hand dead although if the game is very friendly you might convince the other people who played the pot for each to take their money.

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Yeah this was the ruling. The floor announced my hand dead and I somberly accepted.

The other player in this hand was nice enough to chop the pot saying he was lucky because I had the best hand.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

I believe the ruling is Julio chops off your small finger.

If you had four cards he chops off your entire hand.

I always knew you couldn't be trusted.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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I believe the ruling is Julio chops off your small finger.

If you had four cards he chops off your entire hand.

I always knew you couldn't be trusted.

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since he had 3 cards for only a small period of the hand a fingernail is more than enough

Re: I have 3 cards
 

The origin of this problem was JK just having too many chips in front of him. As I said after you wound up with one of my cards, go to the cage and color up when you get to one rack of black.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

[ ] Josh understands what's going on.
[ ] DonkeyKongSr understands what's going on.

Re: I have 3 cards
 

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The origin of this problem was JK just having too many chips in front of him. As I said after you wound up with one of my cards, go to the cage and color up when you get to one rack of black.

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I never understood why they don't let you color up. Especially in a limit game. The dealer generally can use the chips at busy times.

ImBetterAtGolf needs to put down the clubs, and practice throwing his cards back to the dealer. He once knocked over my beer with his discards.