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Praetor 11-13-2007 09:03 PM

10/20 2 pairs
 
Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $20.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($260.00)
MP ($2261.00)
CO ($170.00)
Button ($6460.70)
Hero ($1970.00)
BB ($2544.00)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $270</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $190.

Flop: ($570) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $412</font>, Hero calls $412.

Turn: ($1394) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($1394) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>


Given the rest of the hand, shove river or try and let him bluff? comments on the rest?
Villain is 26/19/2.6, calls 3 bets pretty light, and splashes around, mrdawwe/mrdavve on party

olof86 11-13-2007 09:14 PM

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vs mrdawwe, checkcall every day. haha

I'd also be inclined to make some weak-sorta blockbet of 400 on the turn. Ye it seems very n00bish, but if there's ever a time to do it this is the guy.

Jinx 11-14-2007 12:13 AM

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plz lead the turn
as played bet like 500 or check

nuggetz87 11-14-2007 12:16 AM

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all i can see doing here is check/calling a shove

ArturiusX 11-14-2007 12:21 AM

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I don't like betting the turn, c/r ai feels better. He'll double barrel sometimes with air, value bets almost everything that calls our donks.

Hoopster81 11-14-2007 01:26 AM

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check

Black winter day 11-14-2007 01:34 AM

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800 - call a shove.Looks like he has Ax with unpaired X.Doubt he will bluff much after you call the flop and he checked the turn behind, what is he repping, 66?JT?

ikestoys 11-14-2007 01:36 AM

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dude you have KK, check and let him try to blow you off it.

jfish 11-14-2007 01:39 AM

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bet $200/call or check.

jfish 11-14-2007 01:42 AM

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i think i really like the turn check, but cant decide.

MatthewRyan 11-14-2007 05:50 AM

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i think i really like the turn check, but cant decide.

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ive been debating the same thing for a few minutes here, I think it comes down to this: If he floats in RR pots and bets turns + if he will call with AX or Ax preflop then bet/bet/bet , I like a turn CRAI. Otherwise I like leading.
I think.

FionnMac 11-14-2007 05:57 AM

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ugh i hate leading the turn

MatthewRyan 11-14-2007 05:59 AM

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ugh i hate leading the turn

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gotta say why brotha

FionnMac 11-14-2007 06:09 AM

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ugh i hate leading the turn

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gotta say why brotha

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I just think the whole point of c'c'ing the flop (not saying i'd do it, but there is some merit to it) is to rep KK/QQ type hands and let villain bluff off his stack to us, which he can't really do if we lead turn (unless we donk really small). I also think he's betting bigger aces usually, so we don't really have to worry about losing value from those hands. It seems the only merit in leading the turn is for protection in case he likes taking a free card with pair+gutshot type hands.

olof86 11-14-2007 06:10 AM

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I think it comes down to this: If he floats in RR pots and bets turns

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this is dawwe we're talking about, he can make the craziest moves there is. he can have any two here.

Janis N. 11-14-2007 07:46 AM

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I hate a turn lead; he will stack off with an ace anyway and you were repping TT-KK when you c/c flop so you may as well carry on repping that.

I like either a small blockbet on river (call a shove) or just c/r river. Shoving river is bad imo.

mused01 11-14-2007 07:53 AM

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I like betting 250-350 into the pot like a tiny cute bunny. then he's going to be like "I have these claws, man! I have these freekin claws, and fangs! And here's this tiny little bunny, and I don't know what to do man!" and shove.

You obv call.

wazz 11-14-2007 08:11 AM

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I don't like leading turn either, for reasons said already. Like fionn said, if we do lead turn, we've got to do it really small (like $120) so that he feels he can shove over the top. The river is semi-scary and I think we get a lot more value here by check-calling, I doubt villain even has a bluff-catcher.

stigmata 11-14-2007 08:16 AM

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I like betting 250-350 into the pot like a tiny cute bunny. then he's going to be like "I have these claws, man! I have these freekin claws, and fangs! And here's this tiny little bunny, and I don't know what to do man!" and shove.

You obv call.

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lol nice analogy


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