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3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
Villain is 20/9/3 thru 3500 hands and is def. a winner in the game. He is moneyymakkerr for those who play on stars. We don't have any recent history, have been playing on a few tables together for about an hour and have not yet tangled.
He called pf and raised the flop very quickly. Just calling pf certainly has it's merits and has been discussed several times but I'd rather not discuss pf. What do you think his range is here? Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LeggoPoker Hand History Converter MP: $42 CO: $112.85 BTN: $206.05 Hero (SB): $312.60 BB: $134.65 UTG: $226.75 Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) 3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $20 Flop: ($58) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $34</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $111</font>, |
Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
How often have you been 3betting him recently?
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Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
AKs, AQs, 99-AA maybe KJs AJs
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Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
Win 267
Lose -144 Need 35% equity for 0 EV. Board: Js Jc 4s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 73.041% 71.51% 01.53% 22655 484.50 { 99+, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KJs } Hand 1: 26.959% 25.43% 01.53% 8056 484.50 { TcTd } Adding 88. Board: Js Jc 4s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 63.079% 61.77% 01.31% 23237 493.50 { 88+, AsKs, AsQs, AJs, KJs } Hand 1: 36.921% 35.61% 01.31% 13396 493.50 { TcTd } I think it's close either way. |
Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
I think he can have like 67ss here too.
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Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
Ehhhh, can't see it unless he is really frustrated/tilting. Have seen stranger things though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Does the guy have a static pfr? Is he positionally aware? |
Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
you 3bet preflop because you felt you were good against his calling range. The flop does little to change things; I'm comfortable getting it all-in here.
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i think you can add more spade combos then AK and AQ...its definitely a shove
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He's a winner in this game? Weird.
I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. |
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He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] soul reading, very nice |
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[ QUOTE ] He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] soul reading, very nice [/ QUOTE ] it's not soul reading. I think he's bad. Bad players play AA and KK and not much else like this a lot. If he was a good tag I'd more often than not shove quickly. |
Re: 3bet TT, Get Raised on \"Good\" Flop
super insta turbo muckski
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] soul reading, very nice [/ QUOTE ] it's not soul reading. I think he's bad. Bad players play AA and KK like this a lot. If he was a good tag I'd more often than not shove quickly. [/ QUOTE ] fair enough, you were correct fwiw. His timing really threw me. Didn't think he would act so quickly with a strong hand. whoops |
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He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] You still need to 3 bet him here for information and value, or you wouldn't be able to come to that conclusion so easily. |
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they get so excited!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] soul reading, very nice [/ QUOTE ] it's not soul reading. I think he's bad. Bad players play AA and KK like this a lot. If he was a good tag I'd more often than not shove quickly. [/ QUOTE ] fair enough, you were correct fwiw. His timing really threw me. Didn't think he would act so quickly with a strong hand. whoops [/ QUOTE ] Well, he was planning to raise your flop bet from the moment he just called the 3-bet, lol, so he wouldn't need to stop and think. |
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[ QUOTE ] He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] You still need to 3 bet him here for information and value, or you wouldn't be able to come to that conclusion so easily. [/ QUOTE ] Limit HE FTW. 4-bet-fold-to-cap would be my line. |
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[ QUOTE ] He's a winner in this game? Weird. I don't three bet him here often. I think he has AA or KK on the flop and you should fold. [/ QUOTE ] You still need to 3 bet him here for information and value, or you wouldn't be able to come to that conclusion so easily. [/ QUOTE ] eh, no, I lose or win a small to medium pot. talk to me when I have QQ here vs this guy |
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