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icheckcallu 11-13-2007 12:58 PM

am i running bad or playing bad???
 
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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $24
SB: $25
BB: $22.56
UTG: $5.58
MP: $26.07
CO: $37.35

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6

River: ($21.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12

Results: $45.10 Pot ($2.75 Rake)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pairs, Kings and Sevens) and LOST (-$22.50 NET)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pairs, Kings and Sevens) and WON $42.35 (+$19.85 NET)




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HAND #2
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $3.05
CO: $41.03
BTN: $22.31
SB: $43.59
Hero (BB): $21.94

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Turn: ($4) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, CO calls $2.75, BTN calls $2.75, SB folds

River: ($12.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $19</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $10.19 and is All-In

Results: $48.63 Pot ($1.69 Rake)
CO showed 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Twos) and WON $46.94 (+$25 NET)
Hero mucked 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Twos full of Eights) and LOST (-$21.94 NET)

FalconTi0 11-13-2007 01:03 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
the first one i think you should have slowed down on the river and the second one is fine i think

n4rf 11-13-2007 01:06 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
1st one definitely slow down, you really have to put your opponent on a hand, will he call down multiple streets with a KJ or K10? Check behind on river. Seems like a very passive player.

2nd one is fine, you're not getting away from a full house.

Profish2285 11-13-2007 01:09 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
What everyone else has said is spot on. You have to exercise some pot control in hand 1 on the river. Hand 2 is a cooler.

Spurious 11-13-2007 01:33 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
2nd hand definitely a cooler!

1st hand is fine, too, imo.
Why do we want to check behind on the river?
I think KJ,K9 and other hands are calling.
I play it the same.

Unknown Soldier 11-13-2007 01:40 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
check back river on 1? nooooooooooooooo

wp op, running bad, playing g00t

thoman8r 11-13-2007 01:43 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
1st hand I check behind on the river against all but the biggest fishies.

2nd hand is a cooler.

BigPhish 11-13-2007 03:10 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
Hand 1 I check behind the river.
Hand 2 I probably can't fold either, but I'd expect to lose.

subs 11-13-2007 03:22 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
lol @ check behind... you played both hands finds and just got unlucky

losingdonkey 11-13-2007 03:25 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
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lol @ check behind... you played both hands finds and just got unlucky

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check behind on hand 1 is standard. I would bet the minority of the time, with reads.

Supwithbates 11-13-2007 03:27 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
its at party, not at stars, so both hands are fine. At stars or FTP betting river is spew

Unknown Soldier 11-13-2007 03:38 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
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its at party, not at stars, so both hands are fine. At stars or FTP betting river is spew

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lol


river is an easy bet, seriously.

wslee00 11-13-2007 04:20 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
icheckcallu - did you seriously think you played these hands wrong? these are both pretty standard... i smell a disguised beat post here

icheckcallu 11-13-2007 04:52 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
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icheckcallu - did you seriously think you played these hands wrong? these are both pretty standard... i smell a disguised beat post here

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no beat post but Im contemplating playing uber nitty style again since all my goddamn all in hands lost yesterday and today. probably like 15 of 20 hands I lost and which most of it I was ahead.

tubasteve 11-13-2007 05:47 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
good hands OP, both played xpert IMO

hand 1 is much closer than hand 2 fwiw

toddxlogan 11-13-2007 06:09 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
Hand 1) Close, but not that close. Played well. Fish will find ways to call with worse.

Hand 2) Perfect. No discussion.

bsball8806 11-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
both of these hands are standard, well played.

Not betting the river in hand one is bad in my opinion. We lose so much value from KJ, K9..which are obviously not folding TP on this river

djj6835 11-13-2007 06:14 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 


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1st hand I check behind on the river against all but the biggest fishies.


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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game

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Confirmed. Bet river.

edit: and really this is a bet against almost anyone. You're behind like one or two hands here against 99% of villains.

AZplaya 11-13-2007 06:14 PM

Re: am i running bad or playing bad???
 
this two hands are very standard, don't get results oriented over 2 hands. If your losing over say 20K hands you might have some bad plays but these arent' them.


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