Squeezing into nuts...
Villain is 35/19/1.8.
I wish I could raise but it is just stupid, isn't it? No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $1/$2 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $86.10 Button: $177.60 SB: $231.05 urbanati: $273.15 Pre-flop: (4 players) urbanati is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $7</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">urbanati raises to $32</font>, Button folds, SB calls. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($71, 2 players) SB checks, urbanati checks. Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($71, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $35</font>, urbanati... |
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I think you should bet the flop.
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I think you should bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. [ QUOTE ] I wish I could raise but it is just stupid, isn't it? [/ QUOTE ] As played raising the turn is stupid if you hate money. |
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I don't mind checking behind this flop that much, though betting it should be standard.
As played I would raise, as preflop suggests villain likes to call. |
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I think beting the flop isnt great. Whats sb cold called twice with? AK... you are getting called here some of the times and check raised some of the time. I think your hand is SUPER disguised if you check and make it, and you haver a real shot of stacking JJ, whereas betting the flop prices you out of the hand some of the time.
And the "some" of the time im talking aobut isnt like less than 1%. Id be really worred about A, K, J and to a lesser extent Queens on the river. A ten could also be an action killer. If you would check AA/KK on this flop then I am inclined to just call his turn bet and hope for a blank on the river. |
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I think beting the flop isnt great. Whats sb cold called twice with? AK... you are getting called here some of the times and check raised some of the time. I think your hand is SUPER disguised if you check and make it, and you haver a real shot of stacking JJ, whereas betting the flop prices you out of the hand some of the time. [/ QUOTE ] No, he most probably called with a mid PP, but you can't fold them out without betting. He's most likely set mining (badly). If you check the flop, its you who's repping AK, and you're going to get looked up unimproved unless you get some overcard help. The disguised strength of your hand doesn't really matter, because its unlikely that he's going to stack off unless he has JJ or QQ, which is i think a pretty tiny part of his range. |
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Agree 100% with Warbucks.
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Agree 100% with Warbucks. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Worst squuezing hand ever?
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huh
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lol yea I don't squeeze with this junk much, but maybe that's just me being nitty. I usually bet the flop but if I don't I definitely raise the turn
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what do you do on a blank turn?
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are you guys calling a c/shove on the flop if you do bet?
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lol yea I don't squeeze with this junk much, but maybe that's just me being nitty. I usually bet the flop but if I don't I definitely raise the turn [/ QUOTE ] It's not only about the cards, it's the coldcalling 35/19/1.8 SB who probably isn't going to fold to your squeeze. |
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i have almost stopped squeezing w/o a good hand. people don't fold like they used to
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the new squeeze is this. button opens (someone with a wide range). TAG 3bets in SB (also with a fairly wide range), you 4bet in BB
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[ QUOTE ] I think beting the flop isnt great. Whats sb cold called twice with? AK... you are getting called here some of the times and check raised some of the time. I think your hand is SUPER disguised if you check and make it, and you haver a real shot of stacking JJ, whereas betting the flop prices you out of the hand some of the time. [/ QUOTE ] No, he most probably called with a mid PP, but you can't fold them out without betting. He's most likely set mining (badly). If you check the flop, its you who's repping AK, and you're going to get looked up unimproved unless you get some overcard help. The disguised strength of your hand doesn't really matter, because its unlikely that he's going to stack off unless he has JJ or QQ, which is i think a pretty tiny part of his range. [/ QUOTE ] No No... you misunderstood me. Clearly villian has AK here like never, and yes it's a pocket pair alot. And his VPIP suggests he likes to peel. Ok, what I was basically getting at is that our bet shouldnt have much F/E. When we check it looks like we have AK, which is AWESOME because when we do make our hand we can start "bluffing" quite freely. Same would apply if we had AA/KK - villians hand is pretty well defined and there if he can read our hand as AK if we check the flop then the value we extract from such deception (checking) on the next two streets should make up for not winning this pot with a c-bet (which I think isnt gonna work). I dunno - I think checking the flop here should be +EV. |
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you have zero showdown equity, good odds against his calling range and a decent amount of fold equity...
i don't understand why you wouldn't bet. |
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you have zero showdown equity [/ QUOTE ] level or am i missing something? |
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on the flop
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aaaaaaah, I was missign something
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