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Nielsio 11-12-2007 09:37 PM

FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $406.40
BB: $677.30
UTG: $402.90
MP: $190.80
CO: $359.50
BTN: $949.40

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $54</font>, BB folds, CO calls $40

Flop: ($112) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($112) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $74</font>



CO is 40/19/3.5/88 . Down $600 in 300 hands. Target obviously.

I figured this flop made a c/r suitable. If I bet and I get raised I'm never in great shape whereas given his lagtard style he will sooner lose money with worse or possibly bet/fold the flop.

He checked behind quickly leading me to believe he's not trapping and just has a very weak made hand or nothing at all, so I lead the turn.

Like?

What do we do if we're raised on the turn.

Jay Riall 11-12-2007 09:40 PM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
vs a spaz like this I'm feeling ok with a bet/call on this flop.

spivey 11-12-2007 09:43 PM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
b/c this flop.

carnivalhobo 11-12-2007 09:48 PM

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vs anyone I'm feeling ok with a bet/call on this flop.

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vancouverspecial 11-12-2007 10:30 PM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
I like this against a player who would raise and commit with pair/straight draw, flush draw etc. Against looser weaker plays I prefer a bet/call.

fingersmith 11-12-2007 10:30 PM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
sweet, another near-trivial thread from nielsio

he will obviously shove worse than KK on the flop, and your equity is solid vs 2pairs, so get it in please. you're only really worried about sets and flopped straights--not a huge number of combos in his ridiculous range. your gutshot and the fact you hold a club means you're actually ahead of some combo draws as well.

as played get it in on the turn. anyone who maintains a 3.5 af with 40 vpip is aggressive enough for this, and it's not even close.

JediGrindTricks 11-13-2007 12:15 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
^ DING DING DING

pineapple888 11-13-2007 01:48 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
Just stop posting please. K? thx.

traz 11-13-2007 01:53 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
Never checking the flop

h_ven 11-13-2007 02:05 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
Bet out the flop. As played, against this 40/19, I'd get it all in the middle since the turn didn't change anything.

Dire 11-13-2007 02:43 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
bet/call flop. You're getting it in good against lots from JQ, AQ, flush draws, 88, QQ, blah.. If you're behind to something like TJ you have a ton of outs. blah blah.. Checking is pretty bad on this flop since there's so many hands that would love to see a free card and most people aren't going to just blindly barrel away here, even your 'target'.

DefiNe 11-13-2007 03:30 AM

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Just stop posting please. K? thx.

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Casper05 11-13-2007 03:31 AM

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lol I think DefiNe comes out of the woodshed only when Nielso posts a hand.

DefiNe 11-13-2007 04:38 AM

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lol I think DefiNe comes out of the woodshed only when Nielso posts a hand.

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heh [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] not true though and he has me on ignore anyways.

martijn 11-13-2007 05:10 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
I'dd prefer just leading here and trying to get it in, the board is a bit to ugly to let a free card come off for him, which will either kill your action even more, or gives you a worse hand.

tubasteve 11-13-2007 05:14 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
hes a donk, bet the flop, stack off

Barrin6 11-13-2007 05:24 AM

Re: FT400 KK reraised checkup
 
Why are you guys betting flop here? You only got 3 outs! Actually two since the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hurts us.

74o_Clownsuit 11-13-2007 05:27 AM

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Checking the flop here is some serious FGators [censored].

martijn 11-13-2007 05:34 AM

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Why are you guys betting flop here? You only got 3 outs! Actually two since the Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hurts us.

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You want value from worse hands?
If you check here, its not with the intention of folding anywhere in the hand, right?Its to slowplay?
I think checking here is actually very bad. You dont like a A, you dont like a 8, you dont like a club, you dont like a J, you dont like a K.


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