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betis83 11-12-2007 05:45 PM

Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
Sorry no HH is available in this room, so I will type it in manually.

The limit is 5/10, I have 1800 and I'm UTG+1. Fish is the button with 1200 and has just doubled up via great luck twice. He has a vpip of 60% and likes to use minbets and minreraises against everybody and all the time.

I have qq and i open it up to 35, the fish in the button calls as well as the big blind. Flop comes q103, the q and the 10 in spades. I open 100, when the fish instant reraises me to 240, big blind folds, what should i do in these situations???

Praetor 11-12-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
$590, shove any turn

ArturiusX 11-12-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
Is this really that hard? Do whatever, just don't fold. If he's a bluffer, I call c/r ai any turn, if he's someone who likes raising draws, likes slowplaying aces, likes calling light, 3 bet him. whatever, dont fold.

cbboy 11-12-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
Is this on cake? Are you the betis on cake?

betis83 11-12-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
yeah:)

MichaelBolton777 11-12-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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Is this really that hard? Do whatever, just don't fold. If he's a bluffer, I call c/r ai any turn, if he's someone who likes raising draws, likes slowplaying aces, likes calling light, 3 bet him. whatever, dont fold.

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Maybe not hard, but 3 betting immediately seems clearly better on such a drawy board, pricing him out.

Praetor 11-12-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
how do you know his vpip if you cant use pt on cake?

betis83 11-12-2007 05:56 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
But you guys are not afraid, that betting in this spot against a huge bluffer fish is correct? I mean if we bet like to 500-600 he literally will fold everything, or not?

blah-blah-blah 11-12-2007 05:57 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
should the fact that we're oop lean us towards 3betting?

ArturiusX 11-12-2007 06:02 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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But you guys are not afraid, that betting in this spot against a huge bluffer fish is correct? I mean if we bet like to 500-600 he literally will fold everything, or not?

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So what you're saying is, you're scared a fish will outplay you?

blankoblanco 11-12-2007 06:05 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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should the fact that we're oop lean us towards 3betting?

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generally yeah, but the "instant" raise and the size may lean me a bit toward just calling and checking turn if he's the bluffy type, cause i don't think he has a draw very often. but yeah, overall i'm 3betting with a pretty good read needed to do otherwise

betis83 11-12-2007 06:06 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
I'm afraid i wont stack him down :-)

If I want to get maximum amount out of this hand, I think we can trap him and with his stats and customs if we 3bet him, he will fold just way too many times..

Praetor 11-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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how do you know his vpip if you cant use pt on cake?

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plz to be answering my q

betis83 11-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
a hud works in there, you can see the stats, but cant save the HH-s

KingGordy 11-12-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
Haven't read the responses yet, I'd usually just make it $410 or something small here because he rarely, rarely folds, and it will bloat the pot to the point where getting the money in on the turn and river will be very easy, even with small bets.

Although if he's the type of fish that will always fire as long as he has the initiative, but is capable of making laydowns if you show too much strength, then I might just call and let him hang himself. In most cases though I like 3 betting better.

ikestoys 11-12-2007 06:34 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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a hud works in there, you can see the stats, but cant save the HH-s

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what HUD?

Praetor 11-13-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Playing top set against a fish in NL1000 sh game
 
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a hud works in there, you can see the stats, but cant save the HH-s

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what HUD?

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bump?


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