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Poker Punk 9 11-12-2007 04:34 PM

What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
I feel I have a pretty good understanding of the game but still have problems with tilt. I was wondering what book you would recommend to me. I have already read the poker mindset and it has helped me some. What other books are good on that subject?

Nate. 11-12-2007 05:13 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Punk--

I know you're looking in the Books forum for a reason, but I gotta say that of all the players I know who have (mostly) conquered tilt, almost none of them did it with something they read in a book. Usually it's epiphany, or experience, or pride.

That said, you can't be blamed for looking for reading material. The two best sources I know on the subject are Tommy Angelo's articles (Google it) and Barry Greenstein's book.

All my best,

--Nate

Gene Fish 11-12-2007 05:46 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
i'm half way through "The Poker Mindset" and it's pretty basic but pretty good and accurate.

Professionalpoker 11-12-2007 06:11 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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I feel I have a pretty good understanding of the game but still have problems with tilt. I was wondering what book you would recommend to me. I have already read the poker mindset and it has helped me some. What other books are good on that subject?

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Here are a few. Schoonmakers "Your Worst Poker Enemy" is probably what you are looking for.

burningyen 11-12-2007 10:35 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Greenstein's Ace On The River was the one that helped me the most.

ptartaglio 11-13-2007 02:32 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Barry Greenstein definitely discusses how to control yourself emotionally very well. This is not an exact quoute but he says something like I won't let those jerks get the best of me when I'm stuck I will go home relax and watch a movie, whey they are stuck they will lose their control and I will pounce. His book is also in mp4 format on itunes. Its wonderful, its sooooo goooood Ive probably listened to it about 7 or 8 times.

If Alan Schoonmaker's book is as good as his Card Player articles I'm sure its great too!

shyturtle27 11-13-2007 02:41 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
I've read a bunch of stuff on tilt since I play HU SNG's where you can't tilt ever or you will lose quickly. Inside the poker mind is good. I really want the poker mindset, but the bookstores here in Knoxville don't have it so I can look through to see if it is worth a read. Worst poker enemy was really good, but kind of condescending (might be good for others). If I remember right Ace on the River was really good especially the parts about traits of a good poker player. I really liked what he said about how a poker player would react to getting cutoff in traffic or messing up playing a sport. Helped me a lot to stay cool in poker AND tennis (i don't scream nearly as much in either).

7n7 11-13-2007 11:26 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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i'm half way through "The Poker Mindset" and it's pretty basic but pretty good and accurate.

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The Poker Mindset hands-down for me. I purchased it using Full
Tilt points and am glad I did.

RiversAreBad 11-13-2007 02:24 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Without a doubt I would have to chose Zen and the Art of Poker. The whole book is about controlling your emotional aspect of the game and helped me tremendously. Anyone who has trouble with tilt should read it.

DeadMoneyWalking 11-13-2007 04:16 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Mark Blade kept saying that he would write a book on the mental game, no word on if he is.

rogetw 11-13-2007 05:18 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Tommy Angelo's new book will be it.

BlueSmurf 11-13-2007 05:45 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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The Poker Mindset hands-down for me

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I second that

kafkaFan1 11-13-2007 06:33 PM

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sharkscopeaholic 11-13-2007 06:49 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Barry Greenstein definitely discusses how to control yourself emotionally very well. This is not an exact quoute but he says something like I won't let those jerks get the best of me when I'm stuck I will go home relax and watch a movie, whey they are stuck they will lose their control and I will pounce. His book is also in mp4 format on itunes. Its wonderful, its sooooo goooood Ive probably listened to it about 7 or 8 times.

If Alan Schoonmaker's book is as good as his Card Player articles I'm sure its great too!

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he def. showed controled emotions on HSP when his AA<KK alli in prf for like 300k on the last hand of the night. He was expressionless,lol.

SuperUberBob 11-14-2007 07:32 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Your Own Worst Poker Enemy

Adman 11-14-2007 07:56 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
Definitely The Poker Mindset. Nothing else comes close IMO.

daveT 11-14-2007 03:18 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
I will definitely second Zen and the Art of Poker. After a bad day, there tends to be a chapter you absolutely must read.

fraac 11-14-2007 03:27 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Punk--

I know you're looking in the Books forum for a reason, but I gotta say that of all the players I know who have (mostly) conquered tilt, almost none of them did it with something they read in a book. Usually it's epiphany, or experience, or pride.

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I just wrote something similar in another thread. Self-help books, which these are, pander to your cravings without being able to affect them. Whenever I got more emotional control it was due to life circumstances and/or acid. You have to know things are bigger than you before you can control the things that aren't.

But please carry on, because I don't care about anyone reading this, and you're temporarily holding my money.

Doc T River 11-14-2007 07:38 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
The old saying is "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Well, people can give you advice on tilt until they are blue in the face, but only you can control your own emotions.

darth.bilbo 11-14-2007 09:43 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Zen and the Art of Poker.

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i second this

Doc T River 11-14-2007 10:28 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Zen and the Art of Poker.

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i second this

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I actually own Zen and Tao.

fraac 11-14-2007 11:41 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Zen and the Art of Poker.

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i second this

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I actually own Zen and Tao.

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'i pwn zen'

deacsoft 11-15-2007 02:22 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Zen and the Art of Poker.

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i second this

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I actually own Zen and Tao.

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Me too. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I sat silent and watched Zen take a beating in another thread. I liked it. It provides some good thoughts and perspectives. Of course, I wouldn't follow the strategy advice, but it's not supposed to be a strategy book anyway. How much does it help with tilt? As much as you allow it to. Ultimately, it's all up to the player but Zen can easily help get your mind headed in the right direction toward tilt prevention.

Starfish 11-15-2007 04:50 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
I have owned the Zen for a long time, but haven't opened the book yet. I tell you what. I'm gonna go sit on the throne right now and get the book with me. I'll come back after that and give you my expert instant review of its usefulness for this purpose. Let's see how many pages it will have afterwards...

stigmata 11-15-2007 05:40 AM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
I loved "Inside The Poker Mind"

JennPKRpro 11-15-2007 01:14 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Punk--

I know you're looking in the Books forum for a reason, but I gotta say that of all the players I know who have (mostly) conquered tilt, almost none of them did it with something they read in a book. Usually it's epiphany, or experience, or pride.

That said, you can't be blamed for looking for reading material. The two best sources I know on the subject are Tommy Angelo's articles (Google it) and Barry Greenstein's book.

All my best,

--Nate

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Barry's book is top knotch

Doc T River 11-15-2007 07:47 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
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Punk--

I know you're looking in the Books forum for a reason, but I gotta say that of all the players I know who have (mostly) conquered tilt, almost none of them did it with something they read in a book. Usually it's epiphany, or experience, or pride.

That said, you can't be blamed for looking for reading material. The two best sources I know on the subject are Tommy Angelo's articles (Google it) and Barry Greenstein's book.

All my best,

--Nate

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Barry's book is top knotch

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I loved what Barry supposedly said about sex before a tournament. Supposedly, he said it helps and if your significant other could not be there, find a reliable substitute. I told my significant other this (especially the last part) and she strangely did not share my enthusiasm. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

daveT 11-15-2007 08:50 PM

Re: What\'s the best book on tilt?
 
As for Zen, I think one of the best chapters ever laid out on page is "Aggression."


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