Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

i dont know about these spots.. utg raiser is a guy i had like 20 hands on so far, seemed solid thus far, but was at 20 pfr percentage. button/reraiser is yanjiegou2007 who i have at 23/12 over a pretty fair sample but who i have seen do some pretty spewy stuff. sb is like 45/11 or so and seems fishy.. so what now?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $274.85
MP: $275.50
CO: $202.30
BTN: $195
SB: $140.65
Hero (BB): $285.90

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, MP folds, CO calls $6, <font color="red">BTN raises to $27</font>, SB calls $26, Hero says WTF???

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

I fold it here, I don't like 4betting here because we still have UTG to act after us. Flatting would be terrible because were OOP and again we still have UTG to act. So I think a fold is best here

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

i 4bet/call, dead money is fun

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

Isn't AK the nuts? 4b/c is not too spewy IMO altough folding has its merits. Calling is something I wouldn't feel comfortable doing in this spot.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

I actually like a shove here. SB could call buttons RR with a wide range here. BTN could very well be squeezing (light). And I doubt UTG is willing to call off 140BBs with anything less than KK ?

So dead money + possible call from SB = +ev imo.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

Having done absolutely no math... I shove here, and would have folded if the SB didn't call.

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Having done absolutely no math... I shove here, and would have folded if the SB didn't call.

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Agree.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

what is the reason for folding here if SB didn't call?

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

less dead money i guess

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

close between fold/push but id push here, im a sucka for dead money until the button turns over AA,KK

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

prob fold. someone do the math gogogogogog

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

easy push

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

i think this is a fold. i disagree with the whole SB is dead money thing, unless he's one of those guys who calls 3bets/squeezes as if they're a standard open raise:

e.g. button raises, the same small blind calls and u squeeze from the BB - btn folds and sb calls regardless and ends up with like K9.

against that type of player i think a push is fine, without reads i lean towards a fold.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

Irish Pete Sb is 45/11... he v likely is the type of player youve outlined

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

Fold or push.

Calling or 4-betting less than AI are both bad. Clearly SB isn't ever folding a pair if it's less than AI. Pushing is also awesome because UTG is in a terrible spot even if he's got something as good as QQ.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

fold there is just too high a chance you are dominated here.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

ok good, at least everyone isn't advocating fold which i kinda felt may be the case...i was scared it was too aggressive to shove here, but i did.. all folded except SB who had AK also.

Re: Weird AK preflop spot with tons o action to us
 

4bet/call shove ship it. 40% equity vs JJ-AA, AK plus lots of dead money (1/3 of a BI) and you will often fold out JJ-QQ, AK.