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dakevs 11-12-2007 05:32 AM

ron paul for 2008?!?!?
 
From his website: "I support the Access to Medical Treatment Act, H.R. 2717, which expands the ability of Americans to use alternative medicine and new treatments."

Does that open the way for medicinal marijuana? Do you think that would be good?

I agree with a lot of his views. I know it's kind of early, but he might be getting my vote.

Edit:/Jman220: Moved to the Politics Forum, expect a lot of responses by a lot of far-right wing posters arguing that he is the savior of mankind.

a nonymous 11-12-2007 05:35 AM

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It's News, Views, and Gossip, but see how it's underneath "General Poker Discussion"?

DontRaiseMeBro 11-12-2007 05:36 AM

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he's the best of the available alternatives.. the u.s. might not be able to survive anybody else..

GoodCallYouWin 11-12-2007 03:00 PM

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Ron Paul wants to end the federal war on drugs. Your state will probably still [censored] you over though.

Ineedaride2 11-12-2007 03:17 PM

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Brainwalter 11-12-2007 03:43 PM

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damn far-right-wingers and their medical marijuana!

iron81 11-12-2007 04:25 PM

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Jman may no longer moderate here, but he is still a member of the community. Lay off please. I for one am curious about what power the President has to liberalize drug laws.

GoodCallYouWin 11-12-2007 04:30 PM

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Jman may no longer moderate here, but he is still a member of the community. Lay off please. I for one am curious about what power the President has to liberalize drug laws.

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He could do mass pardons, that would be cool.

AlexM 11-12-2007 04:40 PM

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Jman may no longer moderate here, but he is still a member of the community. Lay off please. I for one am curious about what power the President has to liberalize drug laws.

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I know if I were elected president I would feel like I had to pardon any federal prisoner who was imprisoned based on unconstitutional laws. That would be part of that whole oath of office thing.

pvn 11-12-2007 05:04 PM

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Jman may no longer moderate here, but he is still a member of the community. Lay off please.

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He hasn't posted in politics since April.

iron81 11-12-2007 05:06 PM

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Keep in mind that pardon power won't get you guys all the way there. Corporations won't want to get involved in drug sales, including prescription drug sales, as long as the laws remain on the books.

ojc02 11-12-2007 06:42 PM

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lol @ "far-right wing" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

bdk3clash 11-12-2007 06:43 PM

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I'm not sure which of the many Ron Paul threads this belongs in, but Glenn Greenwald posted today about "outright smears and distortions" of Ron Paul.

BluffTHIS! 11-12-2007 06:43 PM

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Would someone mind ninja-bumping all the active RP threads to the top of the list and taking a screen shot to show how many of them there are? I'd do it myself but I've been temp-banned before for doing that and lost a perfectly good gimmick account. Paging canis!

ojc02 11-12-2007 06:46 PM

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The president could call off the DEA from making busts couldn't he?

That's one of the things that is really retarded, California legalizing medical marijuana and the DEA coming in and shutting the shops down.

JayTee 11-12-2007 10:16 PM

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Wouldn't mass pardons basically make it a dead law? How would congress react to a president pardoning thousands of non-violent drug offenders?

My prediction is that if you released a million drug offenders, any crimes that they committed would be brought up in the media and congress might have significant public support for an impeachment. Remember the illegal alien that killed somebody driving drunk that orielly used as his whipping boy for awhile?

tolbiny 11-13-2007 05:29 PM

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There's no active ron paul polls thread (what's up slackers) and I don't have any videos to link to, so I'll post this here.

There are some interesting results from the latest poll in NH, where RP is currently at 7%.

First off only 16% of likely GOP voters are definately decided, 24% leaning and 60% trying to decide (significantly different than the 24/28/48 splits for likely dem voters). Clearly this is a point in favor of the underdogs allowing for larger changes in support numbers.

Now RP's odd numbers.

Extremely interested in primary/very interested/somewhat,notvery

Rommney 32/33/30
Guiliani 18/22/22
McCain 16/16/19
Paul 13/2/8

Definately decided/leaning/undecided

Romney 29/36/30
guliani 24/28/17
Mccain 24/14/16
Paul 17/8/4

Definately vote in primary/vote unless emergency/may vote

Romney 33/32/11
Guliani 21/18/26
McCain 16/20/25
Paul 7/3/23

Paul is clearly getting more committed support in the first two questions, but when asked if they are actually going to vote he loses out all of a sudden. This could be due to the breakdowns of his supporters

income
<30,0000 18
30-60k 5
60-75k 6
75-100k 8
>100,000 6

Age
18-34 15
35-49 9
50-64 6
65+ 5

He's drawing on lower class and younger crowds, not traditionally strong voting blocks to say the least.

Paul's brightest spots to me, Can bring needed change at 10% and candidate least likely to vote for- not even listed.

AlexM 11-13-2007 05:38 PM

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He's drawing on lower class and younger crowds,

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This is impossible, only the rich would ever vote for liberty!!%$!!!!?!@??^%?!^?OMG!%@!


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