I went 0/10 in prop bets this weekend - rate my plays
 

drunken weekend with the boys out of town - we decided to spice it up with some $20-$50 prop bets. At the time I thought all of these bets were at least neutral ev, but in my sober state I'm starting to reconsider. Am I just running bad or am I a moron? I realize a lot of these are skill based and you don't know how skilled or unskilled I am, but the results should show some indication of it. which of these losing bets has the least amount of EV? (results of each bet in white underneath)

Eric Lindros just retired and we debated if he should go into the hall of fame. He won the MVP once and I bet that no player had ever won the MVP and is not in the hall of fame.
<font color="white">2 other players have won the MVP and are not in the hall of fame, not including active players who probably wont be inducted.</font>

Name every country in South America
<font color="white">I got 10/12 missing surinam and Guyana</font>

Name every country in Europe
<font color="white">I got 42/47, missing a ton of gay former yugoslavia</font>

Name 20 of 23 players who are in the 500 home run club
<font color="white">I got 18 but also said a few that weren't on the list</font>

This one was a heads up duel - first to name all 50 states.
<font color="white">I got to 48 to his 50. Sat there for 5 minutes+ without coming up with mass and wyoming for some reason</font>

The year of Cobains death being 1995+
<font color="white">he died april 1994</font>

Population of British Columbia being higher than Quebec
<font color="white">bc has like 4 million to quebec's 6+</font>

Population of Edmonton(and greater area) less than 1 million
<font color="white">this one was a draw as we found 2 numbers on wiki, one over and one under</font>

And two sports bets, one on the leafs to beat the rangers with 2 minutes remaining in the game, and the other for the dolphins to cover the spread of +3 against the bills.
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Write in for Leafs, they never win.

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south america or europe has gotta be near impossible...

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QC's population is obv bigger...

and i woulda personally guess population for Edmonton is &gt;1M

i lack knowledge in most of the others

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Sorry to hear your run of badluck this weekend sir. If you would like to try your luck at some friendly poker however, feel free to drop by the cardroom for some 1/2 unlimited omaha!

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Name every country in South America
Name every country in Europe
Name 20 of 23 players who are in the 500 home run club

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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Name every country in South America
Name every country in Europe
Name 20 of 23 players who are in the 500 home run club

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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This kinda stuff is easy when you got access to teh internets imo

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You'll just have to take my word that I didn't look anything up.

I have no reason to lie over something this trivial anyway.

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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Restecp.

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Cobain had the lowest EV. Unless I misunderstand something, I don't know how you could take some of these bets. If you are not sure of something, and someone else is willing to bet that is's not true - well, you're going to lose probably.

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would anyone from North America ever come up w/ Liechtenstein, San Marino...? I really dont know how well known they are...

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Unless I misunderstand something, I don't know how you could take some of these bets. If you are not sure of something, and someone else is willing to bet that is's not true - well, you're going to lose probably.

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drunken weekend with the boys out of town - they decided to spice it up by hustling my fish ass.

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The Europe one depends on the rules. Do you only get one shot? Or is it like you name 38 countries and your friends say "no there's still more try again" If it's like option one and pays 1:1 I'd say this is the worst EV for most people. I doubt I could name 20 500 HR players though. South America is easy though!

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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arent Georgia, Armenia and partly Kazakhstan considered to be both european and asian countries? (this goes for turkey/russia too obv.)

edit: meh

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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isnt Georgia, Armenia and partly Kazakhstan considered to be both european and asian countries? (this goes for turkey/russia too obv.)

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no they isnt?

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lol this is so funny.

You do realize your friend posted in BBV, right?

I hope I didn't miss a level here

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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isnt Georgia, Armenia and partly Kazakhstan considered to be both european and asian countries? (this goes for turkey/russia too obv.)

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no they isnt?

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turkey and russia are members of the european soccer federation

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Armenia, Georgia , Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Isreal are members of UEFA and not AFC

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south america or europe has gotta be near impossible...

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brag: I can do both. And it's easy.

I wish there was some way to back that up online.

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Name every country in South America

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1. Mexico
2. Panama
3. ... ?

I give up.

Conspire

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such a brag. you're going to have to take me at my word that I'm not using any help on this end.

start at the north and move down for best results:

Columbia
Peru
Venezuela
Ecuador
Equatorial Guinea
French Guyana?
Brazil
Uruguay
Paraguay
Argentina
Chile
Bolivia
the Falkland Islands are still a British protectorate, right?

I might be missing one but I don't think so. I'll check and edit

EDIT: Equatorial Guinea is in Africa. I mixed that up with Guyana. I also missed Suriname. I knew that but I forgot. My bad. Interestingly enough, I find Europe easier.

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Name every country in Europe

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1. France ldo
2. USSR
3. England
4. Russia
5. Great Britain
6. "What is now the former Yugoslavia"
7. The United Kingdom
8. Turkey
9. Morocco
10. Canada
11. East Germany
12. West Germany
13. The little one with the Catholic guy. Something with a "V" I think. Vanuatu?
14. The one with the wooden shoes.
15. The one where the women don't shave. Or is that France?
16. CCCP
17. Spain
18. Espana
19. Gaul
20. Australia, en mein opinion.
21. The one that looks like a penis.
22. Denmarkland
23. Holland
24. The Netherlands
25. Brussels
26. Portugal (maybe)
27. Sicily
28. Sardinia
29. Kazakhstan
30. Versailles
31. Lithuanvia
32. Czechoslovakia (I can spell, bitch!)
33. Greenland
34. Mediterrania
35. Moldovia
36. Croatia
37. Bosniavenia
38. Mauritania
39. Cote d'Ivoire
40. Mongolia.
41. Minsk
42. French Guinea
43. Haiti
44. Caribia
45. Iwo Jima
46. Old York
47. Italy!

Got all 47. Nailed it

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Conspire

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The Lindros Bet

I'm not a huge NHL fan but I know that in basketball, football, and baseball this bet would be really -EV. I'd assume the same for NHL.

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Pretty sure I could do these 3. Actually could do 23 out of 23 for the 500 HR.

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You sure you know all those ex-Yugoslavian and ex-USSR countries? They seem to change every two years or so.

South America should be easier.

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Ex-Yugoslavian: Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia &amp; Herzegovina, Macedonia.

Ex-USSR: Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, rest of them are in Asia.

South America is really easy if you don't forget the two small non-Latin countries.

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[x] BELARUSSSSIANNNN

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The Lindros Bet

I'm not a huge NHL fan but I know that in basketball, football, and baseball this bet would be really -EV. I'd assume the same for NHL.

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I'm a former elementary school geography champ/poli sci major and could come within striking distance of the Europe/SA questions but I took one look at the Lindros Q and said 'no way in hell'. Too many people have one good year in between a decade of suckage. Didn't Brady Anderson win an MVP his steroid usage year?

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The Cobain bet.

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I'm a former elementary school geography champ

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Thinly veiled brag imo.

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The Lindros Bet

I'm not a huge NHL fan but I know that in basketball, football, and baseball this bet would be really -EV. I'd assume the same for NHL.

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I'm a former elementary school geography champ/poli sci major and could come within striking distance of the Europe/SA questions but I took one look at the Lindros Q and said 'no way in hell'. Too many people have one good year in between a decade of suckage. Didn't Brady Anderson win an MVP his steroid usage year?

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the thing about the hockey hall of fame is they are much more lenient about who they let in. I thought this would help my cause. In the end only 2 all time MVP winners are not in the hall of fame, so it was at least close (albeit a -ev bet with no inside knowledge or odds)

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Prop bet I would win:

Washington
John Adams
Jefferson
Madison
Monroe
John Quincy Adams
Jackson
Van Buren
William Henry Harrison
Tyler
Polk
Taylor
Fillmore
Pierce
Buchanan
Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Grant
Hayes
Garfield
Arthur
Cleveland (1st term)
Benjamin Harrison
Cleveland (2nd term - nonconsecutive, bitches!)
McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
Taft
Wilson
Harding
Coolidge
Hoover
FDR
Truman
Eisenhower
Kennedy
LBJ
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Clinton
George W. Bush

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The Lindros Bet

I'm not a huge NHL fan but I know that in basketball, football, and baseball this bet would be really -EV. I'd assume the same for NHL.

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I'm a former elementary school geography champ/poli sci major and could come within striking distance of the Europe/SA questions but I took one look at the Lindros Q and said 'no way in hell'. Too many people have one good year in between a decade of suckage. Didn't Brady Anderson win an MVP his steroid usage year?

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the thing about the hockey hall of fame is they are much more lenient about who they let in. I thought this would help my cause. In the end only 2 all time MVP winners are not in the hall of fame, so it was at least close (albeit a -ev bet with no inside knowledge or odds)

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Bill Ranford in 1990 is the one off the top of my head. The Europe bet was plain silly unless you study that stuff for prop bet purposes.

The secret to these bets is to get like 10 subject areas that no sane person knows and memorize them. Then try to work them into your prop bet negotiations. It is a real art to not make it obvious that you know the answers beforehand.

The Edmonton bet is too open to semantics. What exactly constitiutes the surrounding areas? You could argue for hours on this one. If you start to include places 10-15min drive from Edmonton, you get over 1 million easily.

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Hmmmm... I won every prop bet this weekend:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12928594

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lol this is so funny.

You do realize your friend posted in BBV, right?

I hope I didn't miss a level here

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