BCS Standings, November 11th
 

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BCS Standings
Rk Team W-L Harris Coaches CPU % BCS
Rk Points % Rk Points % Prev Avg
1 LSU 9-1 1 2742 .9793 1 1457 .9713 .9900 2 .980
2 Oregon 8-1 2 2651 .9468 2 1407 .9380 .9300 3 .938
3 Kansas 10-0 4 2498 .8921 4 1344 .8960 .9400 4 .909
4 Oklahoma 9-1 3 2580 .9214 3 1366 .9107 .7300 5 .854
5 Missouri 9-1 6 2248 .8029 6 1194 .7960 .8300 6 .810
6 West Virginia 8-1 5 2278 .8136 5 1238 .8253 .7200 7 .786
7 Ohio State 10-1 7 2100 .7500 7 1145 .7633 .8100 1 .774
8 Arizona State 9-1 8 1919 .6854 8 1042 .6947 .8700 9 .750
9 Georgia 8-2 9 1840 .6571 9 1005 .6700 .6900 10 .672
10 Virginia Tech 8-2 10 1665 .5946 10 923 .6153 .6300 11 .613

It would be interesting to see the result if Oregon and LSU won out, and either KU, OU or Mizzou won out.

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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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It would be interesting to see the result if Oregon and LSU won out, and either KU, OU or Mizzou won out.

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No, it wouldn't. Barring an OU blowout in the B12 Championship game, the teams that control their destiny are LSU and KU. Even then, I put it at about 25% that OU leaps Oregon.

BTW, there's no doubt that Gameday is gonna be at Arrowhead, right?

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can KU finish undefeated and not make the national championship?

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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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They have to be in the top 12 to get the automatic berth though.

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It would be interesting to see the result if Oregon and LSU won out, and either KU, OU or Mizzou won out.

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No, it wouldn't. Barring an OU blowout in the B12 Championship game, the teams that control their destiny are LSU and KU.

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Well, just because you don't think it would be interesting, doesn't mean I don't think it would! :-)

If nothing else, I would just like to see the numbers.

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can KU finish undefeated and not make the national championship?

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Since that means beating Missouri and Oklahoma, I would say no.

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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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They have to be in the top 12 to get the automatic berth though.

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Why did I think it was top 16? I just figured they would easily get top 16 if they won @ Hawaii. So I guess Hawaii with games vs BSU and UW would have the better chance. Hmm...

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i would be suprised if gameday wasnt at arrowhead...two top 5 teams (barring an upset this week)....and the biggest football game ever in one of the longest rivalries in america at a neutral site ..seems perfect i live in kansas city and the week leading up will be epic


btw when i say biggest football game ever i meant in the rivalry between missouri and kansas...

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Gameday was at a D3 school this past week. I wouldn't put anything past them.

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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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They have to be in the top 12 to get the automatic berth though.

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Why did I think it was top 16? I just figured they would easily get top 16 if they won @ Hawaii. So I guess Hawaii with games vs BSU and UW would have the better chance. Hmm...

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Its top 12 for automatic berth. Top 16 gets an automatic berth if one of the BCS conference champions is outside the top 16. That shouldn't happen this year.

Also you have to be top 14 for an at-large berth.

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can KU finish undefeated and not make the national championship?

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Since that means beating Missouri and Oklahoma, I would say no.

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It could easily happen if Oregon & LSU win out...don't see how you can say no.

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They are close enough to Oregon now that if they beat Missouri and Oklahoma, they will definitely pass them in the computer rankings and I would think the voters would give the Jayhawks the nod too. If there is only one undefeated BCS team, then the voters will put them in the championship game.

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It would be interesting to see the result if Oregon and LSU won out, and either KU, OU or Mizzou won out.

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I don't think it would be that interesting because I can say with 85% certainty if the Big 12 team that wins out is KU it will be KU, LSU, Oregon, in that order, while if either of the other two win out it will be LSU, Oregon, and the Big 12 team, in that order. Oklahoma has maybe a 5% chance to leapfrog Oregon if they both win out, Oregon has maybe a 10% chance to pass LSU if they both win out, and KU is at least 90% to take over the #1 spot if they win out.
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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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To clarify... top 12 gets an automatic berth. Top 16 gets an automatic berth IF they also finish ahead of the champion of any of the 6 BCS conferences, if say, Michigan beats Ohio State.

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They are close enough to Oregon now that if they beat Missouri and Oklahoma, they will definitely pass them in the computer rankings and I would think the voters would give the Jayhawks the nod too. If there is only one undefeated BCS team, then the voters will put them in the championship game.

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Exactly. If they go undefeated (only bcs conference school), and finish out with wins over Missouri and Oklahoma with everybody in the country watching then I would be willing to bet a body part they get in.

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Since that means beating Missouri and Oklahoma, I would say no.

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It could easily happen if Oregon & LSU win out...don't see how you can say no.

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There are lots of poeple debating whether Kansas can win out, but I have not seen anyone arguing against Kansas getting to the NC game if the do. Think about.

Kansas already has a better computer average than Oregon, and they (if they win out) play #4 Mizz and #5 Oklahoma. Imagine what that will do to the polls and the computer ave.

Oregon doesn't play a top 40 team from here on in, plus they have a loss.

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I think the more interesting situation for the BCS is if Mizzour or OU win out will they jump over Oregon. I don't think Missouri can but Oklahoma is more tough to say. I could see that going either way and a lot will depend on how big the wins are and how that affects human polls.

A big problem for Oregon is that right now we have a fair number of first-place votes. People putting Oregon - LSU - OU and switching to LSU - Oregon - OU will hurt the ducks. It's going to be very tough for voters picking Oregon now at #1 to stay on Oregon if LSU beats Georgia, Tennessee or Florida in the SEC title game.

I just did some calculations and if Oregon's #1 votes in the human polls were switched to #2s then they would have a BCS average of .9327 for a difference of .0056. Nebraska got in over Colorado in 2001 (not that either deserved to be in [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] ) with a smaller gap.

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Most intriguing: Oregon, LSU, and KU all win out. Miles campaigns against the Pac 10. Belotti's wife throws a fit.

Also intriguing: Oregon, LSU, and Oklahoma or Missouri win out.

As long as 3 of the top contenders win out, it will be fun to watch. I don't think the other teams (ASU/OSU/WVU) will get as much sympathy for being left out as Oregon or a Big XII champ, or LSU.

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undefeated Big 12 champ should get in over any one-loss team. Also, I think Mizzou winning out should get them in the national championship. I don't think you can say the same for OU. Ugh, if this plays out as expected, the need for a +1 system becomes even more painfully apparent.

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Boise State is gotta be looking ahead to that Hawaii game. That is gonna be a huge game for both teams, that 7.5 million dollar payday could help either program tremendously(Boise getting it two years in a row would be huge).

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Does the WAC have a money-sharing arrangement? I know the Big 10 splits all the bowl revenue equally.

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They are close enough to Oregon now that if they beat Missouri and Oklahoma, they will definitely pass them in the computer rankings and I would think the voters would give the Jayhawks the nod too. If there is only one undefeated BCS team, then the voters will put them in the championship game.

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I shouldn't say it will easily happen because no, you're probably right that KU will get in by winning out, but I meant that there is greater than 0% chance that they don't.

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Most intriguing: Oregon, LSU, and KU all win out. Miles campaigns against the Pac 10. Belotti's wife throws a fit.

Also intriguing: Oregon, LSU, and Oklahoma or Missouri win out.

As long as 3 of the top contenders win out, it will be fun to watch. I don't think the other teams (ASU/OSU/WVU) will get as much sympathy for being left out as Oregon or a Big XII champ, or LSU.

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Actually there will be no intrigue. LSU will play KU, and the arguement for Oregon as the slighted team will be far less than that of Michigan last year. That said, KU and LSU needs to win out.

PS. We are probably all wasting time anyway, cause each week it seems a top 3 contender/pretender has blown themselves out of the picture anyway.

In the end we'll probably have one clear-cut team and 5 teams arguing that they should play that team.

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BTW, there's no doubt that Gameday is gonna be at Arrowhead, right?

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For some reason, I thought this game would be next week, but its the week after. Any thoughts for this week?

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Off topic, but what is the order for the BCS bowls to pick the non-automatic bid teams?

In other words, say Oregon ends in the Rose bowl as the P-10 auto bid is USC more likely to play in the Fiesta/Sugar/Orange or there's no way of knowing?

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Nebraska in 2001.

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Maybe your thinking about how Cal got boned by Texas for the Rose Bowl after Mack Brown bitched about it?

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Off topic, but what is the order for the BCS bowls to pick the non-automatic bid teams?

In other words, say Oregon ends in the Rose bowl as the P-10 auto bid is USC more likely to play in the Fiesta/Sugar/Orange or there's no way of knowing?

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I don't know a whole lot about the BCS system but I don't think USC will be in any of them after they lose to ASU on thanksgiving [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Oregon boned Oklahoma with the help of the zebras.

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BTW, there's no doubt that Gameday is gonna be at Arrowhead, right?

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For some reason, I thought this game would be next week, but its the week after. Any thoughts for this week?

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They'll almost certainly be at the Big House for OSU/Michigan, even with OSU losing last week. The only other nationally significant matchups are Cincy/WVU and BC/Clemson.

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undefeated Big 12 champ should get in over any one-loss team.

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I agree. I do think Oregon and LSU are the two best teams in the country, but I think an undefeated big 12 team deserves a shot in the title game. Especially considering it was a given an undefeated Big 10 team was going to get in when Big 12>>>>Big 10.

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Oregon boned Oklahoma with the help of the zebras.

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In other words, Oregon didn't bone them at all. The refs screwed them. That was at the beginning of last year.

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Off topic, but what is the order for the BCS bowls to pick the non-automatic bid teams?

In other words, say Oregon ends in the Rose bowl as the P-10 auto bid is USC more likely to play in the Fiesta/Sugar/Orange or there's no way of knowing?

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I don't know a whole lot about the BCS system but I don't think USC will be in any of them after they lose to ASU on thanksgiving [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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For some reason, I thought this game would be next week, but its the week after. Any thoughts for this week?

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They'll almost certainly be at the Big House for OSU/Michigan, even with OSU losing last week. The only other nationally significant matchups are Cincy/WVU and BC/Clemson.

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OSU/Mich is this week, KU/Mizz is the following week. I guess that settles that.

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Off topic, but what is the order for the BCS bowls to pick the non-automatic bid teams?


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This year, it's Orange, then Fiesta, then Sugar.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

But first, the bowls that lose their team to the national championship get to pick. So Sugar would pick first to replace LSU (because they are #1). Then the Rose Bowl (if Oregon goes to the NC game) or Fiesta (if the Big 12 champ goes to the game). Then it follows the order above (Orange, Fiesta, then Sugar).

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I don't know a whole lot about the BCS system but I don't think USC will be in any of them after they get blown out by ASU on thanksgiving

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fixed MissT's post.

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Didn't Oregon get boned by Oklahoma a few years ago? That would suck if it happened again.

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Maybe your thinking about how Cal got boned by Texas for the Rose Bowl after Mack Brown bitched about it?

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And after the Big 12 refs gave Texas the win over Kansas.