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JaredL 11-11-2007 03:52 PM

College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
Ignoring Boise State, there are 7 one-loss teams: LSU, Oregon, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Missouri, Ohio State, and Arizona State. As was done before, I'll post them without team names, giving the ranking of the loss, and all big wins (over teams that have at least one AP vote).

Obviously you can figure out what team is what here, but try to just go off of this info.

Here they are in random order. I put the AP ranking first with the Sagarin overall ranking in parenthesis. The score is given after.

Team A
loss - at 29 (15) 21-13
big wins - none

Team B
loss - at Sagarin 56(AP unranked) 27-24
big wins - neutral 12 (16) 28-21; vs 6 (9) 41-31

Team C
loss - vs 20 (20) 28-21
big wins - at 26 (22) 37-17; vs 24 (26) 38-17

Team D
loss - vs 30 (25) 31-24
big wins - at 23 (21) 39-7; vs 11 (10) 24-17; vs 9 (8) 35-23

Team E
loss - at 3 (4) 41-31
big wins - neutral 20 (20) 40-34

Team F
loss - at 22 (17) 43-37 (3 OT)
big wins - vs 10 (14) 48-7; vs (7) 28-24; vs 27 (24) 30-24; at 34 (27) 41-34

Team G
loss - at 2 (3) 35-23
big wins - vs 30 (25) 31-20

JaredL 11-11-2007 03:57 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
I think it's F,D,B,E,G,C,A

edit: swapped G and C.

MacGuyV 11-11-2007 04:09 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
F, D, E, G, B, C, A

Can't wait to see how ridiculous that looks w/ teams (I tried not to think about it).

JaredL 11-11-2007 04:18 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
I think B,E and G are probably going to have the most disagreement.

B has a bad loss but two big wins, E and G are basically the opposite with only one win that isn't all that impressive but their losses are against top teams.

I could see an argument for any ordering in there, though E looks better than G.

xorbie 11-11-2007 04:23 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
F D E/C B/G A

xorbie 11-11-2007 04:24 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
I think people have C really low, but they lost to a decent team by one score and had two good (2 score+) wins over slightly worse teams. Has to be better than team G imo.

eviljeff 11-11-2007 04:28 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
is this an onslaught?

MEbenhoe 11-11-2007 04:35 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
F
D
E/G
B
C
A

goofball 11-11-2007 04:44 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
E F G C D B A

MicroBob 11-11-2007 04:47 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
ABCDEFG

becaue that order sounds the catchiest!!

bonds 11-11-2007 05:28 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
FAGBED

Oh, wait, this isn't an anagramming contest?

MicroBob 11-11-2007 05:33 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
nice.
that one really cracked me up.

Jeff W 11-11-2007 05:42 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
FDCEGBA

BobJoeJim 11-11-2007 06:45 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
Unfortunately I know the teams too well for this to leave them anonymous in my mind. Gee, who lost 43-37 in 3ot?

I do think looking at it this way makes it pretty clear that "F" is ahead of "D". In the ranking thread I put D second and F third. If I had a vote in the AP poll I would do the same. If I had a vote in the Harris poll, though, I would swap them because it affects the BCS. I don't actually think D is more deserving, I just would feel too treasonous not giving them the homer benefit of the doubt when it doesn't affect the actual BCS standings anyway [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

MacGuyV 11-11-2007 06:56 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think people have C really low, but they lost to a decent team by one score and had two good (2 score+) wins over slightly worse teams. Has to be better than team G imo.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's kind of like arguing bubble teams in basketball in the sense that nobody will ever change their mind. The extent to which quality of wins, losses, & overall schedule is never clearly defined & thus the opinions are based on highly inconsistent, arbitrary criteria.

I personally feel like team C should get a quality road win to make up for their bad loss & give them the edge over team G, but I can't really get upset with anyone who doesn't agree.

JaredL 11-11-2007 07:17 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
As you can tell by my edit I had C ahead of G and switched. It's fairly close. C's loss is significantly worse but C has an extra big win, a blowout at a low-end of the top 25 type team. One can argue those either way but I think the worse loss outweighs the extra win.

E's resume is basically a slightly better version of G's with a similar loss and a win that's a fair bit better. I think E should certainly be above C based on the above, but could see someone wanting C either in between them or even above E.

Victor 11-11-2007 08:58 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
fdbcega

c and b are very close tho and proly interchangeable. f clearly has the best resume. a is obv the worst. putting e or g above c is laughable.

Victor 11-11-2007 09:17 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
ok after looking some more i think e could be close to c. im still sticking by c bc they have 2 wins while e only has one against similiar opponents.

but really, g has done nothing and is not close to c. c beat 2 teams better than the only quality team g beat. you are rewarding g for simply playing a great team.

also i only know the identity of c.

vixticator 11-11-2007 09:25 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
F, D, E, B, C, A, G

Victor 11-11-2007 09:31 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
ok after looking up the teams you missed that team a beat 31(37)

JaredL 11-11-2007 09:41 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
[ QUOTE ]
ok after looking up the teams you missed that team a beat 31(37)

[/ QUOTE ]

Good catch, missed that they had 6 points in the AP poll. It's actually 31 in AP and 47 in Sagarin.

That makes F more impressive as well since they also beat them 45-0 away. I don't think that would change the positions though as F is still going to be top and A bottom, even with that win.

pvn 11-12-2007 03:35 PM

Re: College Football: Rank the 1- loss teams (anonymous)
 
[ QUOTE ]
ABCDEFG

becaue that order sounds the catchiest!!

[/ QUOTE ]

That's the same combination I have on my luggage!


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