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BrandiFan 11-11-2007 01:54 PM

***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
table 86

ShipitFMA 11-11-2007 01:58 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
edit, nm

tinze 11-11-2007 01:59 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
Table 194. Up to 11100. Wee.

JSchnett 11-11-2007 02:00 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
down to 8k already things aren't going well.

tinze 11-11-2007 02:09 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
I already had over 17k but then overplayed an overpair (QQ) and down to 7,5k.

IWEARGOGGLES 11-11-2007 02:25 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
PokerStars Game #13176976365: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/11/11 - 13:19:46 (ET)
Table '65932421 235' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Minesweepah (10495 in chips)
Seat 2: bones961 (8075 in chips)
Seat 3: Kameleont (10650 in chips)
Seat 4: abraverm (7250 in chips)
Seat 5: Marik73 (7935 in chips)
Seat 6: Hon i grått (15035 in chips)
Seat 7: cyrna (10560 in chips)
Seat 8: LukeFromB13 (9500 in chips)
Seat 9: Face333X (10450 in chips)
Minesweepah: posts small blind 100
bones961: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LukeFromB13 [Jh Ac]
Kameleont: folds
abraverm: folds
Marik73: folds
Hon i grått: folds
cyrna: folds
LukeFromB13: raises 400 to 600
Face333X: folds
Minesweepah: raises 1295 to 1895
bones961: folds
LukeFromB13: calls 1295
*** FLOP *** [4c 9d 8c]
Minesweepah: bets 2775
LukeFromB13: raises 4830 to 7605 and is all-in
cyrna is disconnected
Minesweepah: folds
LukeFromB13 collected 9540 from pot
LukeFromB13: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9540 | Rake 0
Board [4c 9d 8c]
Seat 1: Minesweepah (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: bones961 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Kameleont folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: abraverm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Marik73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hon i grått folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cyrna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: LukeFromB13 collected (9540)
Seat 9: Face333X (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #13177044221: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/11/11 - 13:23:08 (ET)
Table '65932421 235' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Minesweepah (5825 in chips)
Seat 2: bones961 (7325 in chips)
Seat 3: Kameleont (11750 in chips)
Seat 4: abraverm (7250 in chips)
Seat 5: Marik73 (7935 in chips)
Seat 6: Hon i grått (15035 in chips)
Seat 7: cyrna (10560 in chips)
Seat 8: LukeFromB13 (14370 in chips)
Seat 9: Face333X (9900 in chips)
Kameleont: posts small blind 100
abraverm: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LukeFromB13 [Td Jd]
Marik73: folds
Hon i grått: folds
cyrna: folds
LukeFromB13: raises 400 to 600
Face333X: folds
Minesweepah: folds
bones961: calls 600
Kameleont: folds
abraverm: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Qd Js]
LukeFromB13: checks
bones961: bets 1800
LukeFromB13: calls 1800
*** TURN *** [3s Qd Js] [9s]
LukeFromB13: checks
bones961: checks
*** RIVER *** [3s Qd Js 9s] [5s]
LukeFromB13: bets 11970 and is all-in
bones961: folds
LukeFromB13 collected 5100 from pot
LukeFromB13: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5100 | Rake 0
Board [3s Qd Js 9s 5s]
Seat 1: Minesweepah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bones961 (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: Kameleont (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: abraverm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Marik73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Hon i grått folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cyrna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: LukeFromB13 collected (5100)
Seat 9: Face333X folded before Flop (didn't bet)

ZJ123 11-11-2007 02:26 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
3rd hand

: ** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to charder30 [Ac Ah]
bull_99: folds
flashbadger: folds
ShagWell: folds
spectrefax: folds
ofki10: folds
hansou: raises 100 to 150
ErikXP: folds
Adalbert II: folds
charder30: raises 450 to 600
hansou: raises 1750 to 2350
charder30: calls 1750
*** FLOP *** [Js 8s 4s]
charder30: checks
hansou: bets 2650
charder30: raises 5350 to 8000 and is all-in
hansou: calls 5100 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Js 8s 4s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 8s 4s 8d] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
charder30: shows [Ac Ah] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
hansou: shows [Ks Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Eights)
hansou collected 20225 from pot

BrandiFan 11-11-2007 02:30 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
I love a good 1 outer

PokerStars Game #13177152066: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (100/200) - 2007/11/11 - 13:28:38 (ET)
Table '65932421 86' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Dantes_11 (9000 in chips)
Seat 2: FrankThomas8 (12750 in chips)
Seat 3: tarzan24 (14350 in chips)
Seat 4: rstls (24450 in chips)
Seat 5: cherson.27 (13875 in chips)
Seat 6: Mr. Lobo 2 (6500 in chips)
Seat 7: lassejay (11475 in chips)
Seat 8: Phoelex (4200 in chips)
Seat 9: spskiller (6900 in chips)
lassejay: posts small blind 100
Phoelex: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dantes_11 [Td Tc]
spskiller: folds
Dantes_11: raises 400 to 600
FrankThomas8: folds
tarzan24: folds
rstls: folds
cherson.27: folds
Mr. Lobo 2: folds
lassejay: raises 1200 to 1800
Phoelex: folds
Dantes_11: calls 1200
*** FLOP *** [2s 7s Qs]
lassejay: bets 1600
Dantes_11: raises 5600 to 7200 and is all-in
lassejay: calls 5600
*** TURN *** [2s 7s Qs] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [2s 7s Qs 4c] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lassejay: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
Dantes_11: shows [Td Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
lassejay said, "..."
Dantes_11 collected 18200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18200 | Rake 0
Board [2s 7s Qs 4c Th]
Seat 1: Dantes_11 showed [Td Tc] and won (18200) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 2: FrankThomas8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tarzan24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rstls folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cherson.27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Mr. Lobo 2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lassejay (small blind) showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: Phoelex (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: spskiller folded before Flop (didn't bet)

tinze 11-11-2007 02:37 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
Umm... Ty?

PokerStars Game #13177202329: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (150/300) - 2007/11/11 - 13:31:11 (ET)
Table '65932421 111' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: The Rabbi75 (12000 in chips)
Seat 2: tinze (20521 in chips)
Seat 3: nenita02 (20426 in chips)
Seat 4: Peki30 (2605 in chips)
Seat 5: Rocker1978 (8898 in chips)
Seat 6: matti5as (8931 in chips)
Seat 7: Tiltkorv (11087 in chips)
Seat 8: vianto (11303 in chips)
Seat 9: Phwap (12950 in chips)
tinze: posts small blind 150
nenita02: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tinze [7s As]
Peki30 said, "xcgkfbhæojnp'å"
Peki30 said, "k¨lhv bæojnp'å"
Peki30 said, "kp¨l"
Peki30 said, "'"
Peki30: folds
Rocker1978: folds
matti5as: folds
Tiltkorv: folds
vianto: calls 300
Phwap: folds
The Rabbi75: folds
tinze: calls 150
nenita02: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Kh Ah]
tinze: bets 600
nenita02: calls 600
vianto: calls 600
*** TURN *** [3d Kh Ah] [6s]
tinze: bets 1500
nenita02: calls 1500
vianto: folds
*** RIVER *** [3d Kh Ah 6s] [Ac]
tinze: checks
nenita02: bets 2100
tinze: calls 2100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nenita02: shows [Kc 4c] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
tinze: shows [7s As] (three of a kind, Aces)
tinze collected 9900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9900 | Rake 0
Board [3d Kh Ah 6s Ac]
Seat 1: The Rabbi75 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tinze (small blind) showed [7s As] and won (9900) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: nenita02 (big blind) showed [Kc 4c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 4: Peki30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rocker1978 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: matti5as folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Tiltkorv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: vianto folded on the Turn
Seat 9: Phwap folded before Flop (didn't bet)

BrandiFan 11-11-2007 02:49 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
23k at break, I suck

tinze 11-11-2007 02:49 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
27k @ break. Lots and lots of action.

hasuuser 11-11-2007 03:53 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
23k@ 2nd break. Playing bad, but won a flip woohoo.

dogsballs 11-11-2007 03:56 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
I hate teh Warm Up. Flops seen 12%. Won w/out show 8. Showdowns won 1 of 4. Busto.

I swear it pouts me on semi-tilt for the rest of every sunday.

TallPaul 11-11-2007 03:57 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
17k, can't get anything going.

BrandiFan 11-11-2007 03:57 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
33k at 2nd break, I don't think I have had a showdown since I 1 outered a guy 90 minutes ago

IWEARGOGGLES 11-11-2007 03:58 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
40k I think my table is pretty easy I would like to win an enormous hand though.

BrandiFan 11-11-2007 04:49 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
out, AJ<K7 then 99<1010

IWEARGOGGLES 11-11-2007 04:55 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
Meh 60k as of now. We'll see, we'll see.

TallPaul 11-11-2007 05:01 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
22.5k at break, this is like pulling teeth

cappla011 11-11-2007 05:02 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
sitting at 9th with 148k at 3rd break, running good

Superfluous Man 11-11-2007 05:04 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
Was running good til this:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO (t104155)
Hero (t90884)
SB (t26019)
BB (t45824)
UTG (t58730)
UTG+1 (t103130)
MP1 (t74553)
MP2 (t17264)
MP3 (t53052)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t5000</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t5000, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t3000.

Flop: (t14600) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t10000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t28420</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t97930</font>, Hero calls t57264 (All-In).

Turn: (t198214) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t198214) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t198214

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 6d 6h (three of a kind, sixes).
Hero has 4s 4d (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t198214. </font>

TallPaul 11-11-2007 05:11 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
TT&gt;A8 in blind v blind. Up to 40k

JSchnett 11-11-2007 05:12 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
I just made a retarded play followed by doubling up through thay3r Q9&gt;A8

TallPaul 11-11-2007 05:23 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
88&gt;A4s on 334 flop. 80k

TallPaul 11-11-2007 05:59 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
And out 216th. KQ&lt;AT on KQx flop, obv J turn. GL all.

cappla011 11-11-2007 06:10 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
12th place w/ 259k at 4th break, right behind Jschnett in 11th, and stevejpa in 1st.

JSchnett 11-11-2007 06:28 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
I have 400k after this

Seat 1: IFiNishfish (241084 in chips)
Seat 2: dickson007 (103043 in chips)
Seat 3: tuna06 (108183 in chips)
Seat 4: Premier (48421 in chips)
Seat 5: El Sueno (232407 in chips)
Seat 6: youwannaknow (125233 in chips)
Seat 7: PrinceTendee (65785 in chips)
Seat 8: sportznut100 (54936 in chips)
Seat 9: JSchnett (197287 in chips)
IFiNishfish: posts the ante 600
dickson007: posts the ante 600
tuna06: posts the ante 600
Premier: posts the ante 600
El Sueno: posts the ante 600
youwannaknow: posts the ante 600
PrinceTendee: posts the ante 600
sportznut100: posts the ante 600
JSchnett: posts the ante 600
El Sueno: posts small blind 3000
youwannaknow: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JSchnett [Ah As]
PrinceTendee: folds
sportznut100: folds
JSchnett: raises 9500 to 15500
IFiNishfish: folds
dickson007: folds
tuna06: folds
Premier: folds
El Sueno: calls 12500
youwannaknow: calls 9500
*** FLOP *** [7h Qh Kh]
El Sueno: bets 42000
youwannaknow: folds
JSchnett: raises 139187 to 181187 and is all-in
El Sueno: calls 139187
*** TURN *** [7h Qh Kh] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [7h Qh Kh 3c] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
El Sueno: shows [7s Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
JSchnett: shows [Ah As] (a flush, Ace high)
JSchnett collected 414274 from pot

stevepa 11-11-2007 06:37 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
i have 500k sitting to ogre's right now

JSchnett 11-11-2007 06:53 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
jeffbeesdat: posts small blind 5000
Viking Hotel: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JSchnett [8d 8s]
pokerbrat13: folds
blueyes13008: folds
ThePokerBody: folds
McClure84: folds
kzago13: folds
stevejpa: folds
JSchnett: raises 16000 to 26000
jeffbeesdat: raises 54000 to 80000
Viking Hotel: folds
JSchnett: raises 501389 to 581389 and is all-in
jeffbeesdat: calls 177166 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Ad 2c 4h]
*** TURN *** [Ad 2c 4h] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 2c 4h 3d] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jeffbeesdat: shows [Ah Jh] (a pair of Aces)
JSchnett: shows [8d 8s] (a pair of Eights)
jeffbeesdat collected 533332 from pot

cappla011 11-11-2007 07:14 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
sigh QQ&lt;AK pre, river King, was sitting in great position all tournament now im gonna be less then 10 BBs after break.

blah.

stevepa 11-11-2007 07:15 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
bah, 3 bet some guy light, he tiny 4bets like 1/3 of his stack (we're both top 5 in chips) i desperately want to shove but talk myself out of it, he shows A4o [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 480k at break

THAY3R 11-11-2007 07:26 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
~500k like my last 4 hands has been me getting 3 bet and folding 3 times then me getting AA and everybody folding.


Super tilt ensuing...

cappla011 11-11-2007 07:34 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
gg, 60th

PokerStars Game #13183207827: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (7500/15000) - 2007/11/11 - 18:32:34 (ET)
Table '65932421 98' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: pablito_2121 (228874 in chips)
Seat 2: Himclip85 (299602 in chips)
Seat 3: cappla011 (132226 in chips)
Seat 4: JSlacker (175298 in chips)
Seat 5: bonjokris (109754 in chips)
Seat 6: L J hustler (435522 in chips)
Seat 7: dan2107 (368336 in chips)
Seat 8: PrinceTendee (219960 in chips)
Seat 9: Katte-M (431766 in chips)
pablito_2121: posts the ante 1500
Himclip85: posts the ante 1500
cappla011: posts the ante 1500
JSlacker: posts the ante 1500
bonjokris: posts the ante 1500
L J hustler: posts the ante 1500
dan2107: posts the ante 1500
PrinceTendee: posts the ante 1500
Katte-M: posts the ante 1500
dan2107: posts small blind 7500
PrinceTendee: posts big blind 15000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cappla011 [Qc Qs]
Katte-M: folds
pablito_2121: folds
Himclip85: folds
cappla011: raises 115726 to 130726 and is all-in
JSlacker: folds
bonjokris: folds
L J hustler: folds
dan2107: folds
PrinceTendee: calls 115726
cappla011 said, "qqqqq"
cappla011 said, "q"
cappla011 said, "q"
cappla011 said, "q"
*** FLOP *** [Ah 3s 7d]
*** TURN *** [Ah 3s 7d] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 3s 7d 2c] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PrinceTendee: shows [As Jc] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
cappla011: shows [Qc Qs] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
PrinceTendee collected 282452 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 282452 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 3s 7d 2c 3d]
Seat 1: pablito_2121 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Himclip85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: cappla011 showed [Qc Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 4: JSlacker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bonjokris folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: L J hustler (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dan2107 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: PrinceTendee (big blind) showed [As Jc] and won (282452) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 9: Katte-M folded before Flop (didn't bet)

stevepa 11-11-2007 07:36 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
coolered ogre KK&gt;AK, up to 850k

sooooooted 11-11-2007 07:40 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
PokerStars Game #13183312171: Tournament #65932421, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (10000/20000) - 2007/11/11 - 18:37:59 (ET)
Table '65932421 96' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tuna06 (494932 in chips)
Seat 2: EaglesFn1127 (506177 in chips)
Seat 3: stevejpa (844047 in chips)
Seat 5: Heir_Aparent (182932 in chips)
Seat 6: MazeOrBowie (1099185 in chips)
Seat 7: bparis (219390 in chips)
Seat 8: Raw Kat (98666 in chips)
Seat 9: Super_Saan (577578 in chips)
tuna06: posts the ante 2000
EaglesFn1127: posts the ante 2000
stevejpa: posts the ante 2000
Heir_Aparent: posts the ante 2000
MazeOrBowie: posts the ante 2000
bparis: posts the ante 2000
Raw Kat: posts the ante 2000
Super_Saan: posts the ante 2000
Super_Saan: posts small blind 10000
tuna06: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
EaglesFn1127: folds
stevejpa: raises 32000 to 52000
Heir_Aparent: folds
MazeOrBowie: folds
bparis: folds
Raw Kat: folds
Super_Saan: folds
tuna06: raises 48000 to 100000
stevejpa: raises 742047 to 842047 and is all-in
tuna06: calls 392932 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Kd As 8h]
*** TURN *** [Kd As 8h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [Kd As 8h 7h] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tuna06: shows [Ts Th] (a pair of Tens)
stevejpa: shows [Kh Ac] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
EaglesFn1127 said, "nh man"
stevejpa collected 1011864 from pot
stevejpa said, "gg"
antroff is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1011864 | Rake 0
Board [Kd As 8h 7h 3c]
Seat 1: tuna06 (big blind) showed [Ts Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: EaglesFn1127 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: stevejpa showed [Kh Ac] and won (1011864) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: Heir_Aparent folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MazeOrBowie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: bparis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Raw Kat (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Super_Saan (small blind) folded before Flop


Steve takes chip lead.

Gl Steve + THAY3ER

THAY3R 11-11-2007 07:55 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
ASD gfhdndskl sakh klf sajkl fdas;ja egjd;

stevepa 11-11-2007 08:23 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
bleh, chipped down a bunch then just lost a 1.3M chip flip...will have 5bb when we come back from break

stevepa 11-11-2007 08:29 PM

Re: ***Official Sunday Warmup***
 
and first hand back AK&lt;KK...


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