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asellers07 11-11-2007 12:16 PM

I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
Has anyone else been robbed? Best part about it is it was by my "friend." I met this guy about 14 months ago at a homegame I went to with some friends of mine. We got to talking, and as it turned out he dated the same girl as me in high school, and I had very casually met him before. Me and my best friend started hanging out with this guy, which we will call Joe. We hung out with Joe probably 4 times a week. We all 3 had the same interests; we all played poker to pay the rent, we all had lots of free time, and we all enjoyed smoking weed.
After hanging out with Joe for about 4 months, he proposed a deal to me and a friend. He said he was gonna grow some weed in a rural area (we live in oklahoma) and it would be safe. He scemed out this whole plan with how much it would cost, when we would be paid back, all the materials needed, location, etc. It seemed legit, so we loaned him $5k to get it started in which he would pay us back $20k in like 4 months. Sounds real sketchy, and it was, but sounded safe at the time for some reason?
We spotted him the 6k, 3k each, and the very next day he is nowhere to be seen. He moved out of his apartment, changed his phone, no1 knows where he is. obviously he planned this to book town as soon as he got the money.
Fast forward 8 months. Me and my friend have still not heard or seen of this guy since the day he left. He was well known around the casino, and lots of people knew him, so he had already ruined his credit by doing this. This is one of the reasons we trusted him in the first place, is because so many people knew him and he had good credit in the community. So its been 8 months, and its now october 2007, and we spot him at the casino. He makes eye contact with my friend, and turns around and literally runs out the casino like the [censored] coward he is. Eventually he mans up and calls us about a week later and comes clean. He gives this whole story about how he's made mistakes in life and hes changing for the better and that hes found God. He says hes going to school part time and working two jobs and that he's going to pay us back, and somehow i believe it. In the next 2 weeks, he pays me back $600 of the 3k he owes me. He takes me on a poker trip for 3 days and pays for my hotel, food, he drives, gas, which is about $400 so now hes paid back $1k. Now I begin to think hes legit. For the next month, we hang out and everything seems to be getting better.
on Friday night, he calls me and asks what im doing today. I tell him I have nothing planned and he asks me if I want to drink and "play cards." I say ok. I have him over around 6 oclock. He makes margaritas for us and we goof around on Full Tilt. I take a few sips and im already feeling it, im like damn. I hadn't eaten much that day and hadn't drnak lately so i figured my tolerance was low. In the next hour, I end up having about 10 people over. He leaves the house around 9 pm and everyone else stays until about midnight. I go to sleep after everyone leaves, and wake up the next morning with no recolleection of what happened. I have been really drunk before and forgotten parts of my night, but nothing like this. I don't think anything of it in the morning but just assume that I had drank a lot.
10 am, Joe calls me and asks if I want to grab breakfast. I say ok, he picks me up around 11, we eat until 12. He asks me what im doing today, I say nothing planned,he asks if I want to go golfing im like alright. He asks me "have u showered yet today?" (Ive never heard anyone ask this before) I say no, so we head back to myhouse so I Can shower. He plays a $5 heads up on my name while im in the shower. I take my shower for about 10 minutes, and when I get out of the shower he is gone. Im like wtf? I try calling him and he doesnt answer. I then check the pocket of my Jeans and the $8500 I had was gone. (I play lots of high limit homegames around the area almost daily and this is why I carry so much cash on me.) My wallet is also empty which i had about $500 in. I check my full tilt account, and he had also drained my account and sent $800 to his name "riverchaser16." I contacted FTP about this and told them the situation, of course they wont transfer it back. Now I know youre thinking "how the hell could you be such a dumbass and fall for this?" Yes, I was naive for even hanging out with him in the first place after this whole thing, but this kid is the biggest [censored] scumbag I have ever met, and is probably the shittiest 20 yr old on earth. This kid is [censored] good at coning people, and must do it quite often.
What do you guys think? I know i'm an idiot and there needs to be a lesson learned here. Has anyone been robbed before? I had the police over to the scene immediately after it happened and they put a warrent out for his arrest which is good. It's a miracle this mother [censored] isn't in jail already, but he will get what he desrves. I don't even care about the money, I just want justice served. Hopefully he spends some time in the slammer and gets anal raped 3 times daily by big black men.
If anyone else has similar stories please share so I feel better. You don't have to tell me I'm an idiot because I already know. Just like to hear some input/any recommendations on how I can get ahold of this guy. I don't know where he lives but I have his phone number. He most likely is booking town again like he did last time. And I;ve already contacted the police. Any other ideas would be greatyly appreciated.

CLIFF NOTES:

1) Met the guy through poker (shocking the people you meet)
2) He scammed me for $2500 a yr ago, I had willingly gave it to him so nothing I could do, he disappears and acts like hes paying me back 9 months later
3) He's hanging out at my house saturday morning while im in the shower, he takes $8500 from my pocket in 100's and another $500 from my wallet, and drains my FTP account for $800 (lmao)
4) his FTP name is riverchaser16
5) I later found out he drugged my drink on friday night in hopes of getting me to pass out and rob me
6) I contact police and they put warrent out for his arrest

7) I know im a dumbass, but any advice on the situation would be great. I dont know where he lives but I have his current cell number. Any way I can get info on him would be great.

TropAndEastern 11-11-2007 12:24 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
Don't tell the "I was trying to help him fund his illegal weed-growing operation" part in court. Also, next time he comes back claiming to be changed, don't f'in believe him. Stop being friends with people who have stolen thousands of dollars from you. Lol

1tripz1 11-11-2007 12:28 PM

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Just stay the [censored] away from him, jesus.

OneTimeAce 11-11-2007 12:29 PM

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Wow I would beat his ass.

FatRed 11-11-2007 12:30 PM

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Stop being friends with people who have stolen thousands of dollars from you.

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QFT lmao

LucidDream 11-11-2007 12:31 PM

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paging grimstarr

GoCobbers95 11-11-2007 12:33 PM

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Sounds like you have a fairly solid case against him. You have contacted cops gave his name and they have a warrant out for his arrest. Not much else you can do.

Couple questions. How do you know he drugged you the other night? Was it a date rape type drug? Also might as well post up the guys name. It can't hurt anything and would be good to have if we are from same area.

Thats [censored] bro. Hope some sort of positive resolution comes of it.

(o_0) 11-11-2007 12:34 PM

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Luckboxxx 11-11-2007 12:35 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
Contgrats man, you got double ROLLED!
Actually I kinda feel sorry for you guy, it sucks to get taken for so much money, especialy by someone you trusted and though was your friend [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] but daaaamn you are stupid.

Luckboxxx 11-11-2007 12:37 PM

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Was his name Justin [censored] Smith?

asellers07 11-11-2007 12:43 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
I'm from Tulsa, Oklahoma. We play at Creek Nation Casino on riverside at 81st, this is where I met him. If anyone plays there then I will give you his name, you probably will know him.

I know he drugged me because realizing the next day, I rememvber literally nothing for a 8 hour period, and I hadnt drank that much. I started drinking at around 6 and by 630 had maybe 2 drinks, but dont remmeber anything. Not normal there. He also made my drinks, so I put it together after the incident and 100% he drugged the drinks. I also talked to my ex-girlfriend last night. She knew him and dated him after I had dater her. I told her I thought he had drugged my drink, and as it turns out he had given her a date rape pill when they were dating. Lots riding on this guy he's gonna be in deep legal [censored] when he gets caught.

glimmertwin 11-11-2007 12:53 PM

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I know he drugged me because realizing the next day, I rememvber literally nothing for a 8 hour period, and I hadnt drank that much. I started drinking at around 6 and by 630 had maybe 2 drinks, but dont remmeber anything. Not normal there. He also made my drinks, so I put it together after the incident and 100% he drugged the drinks. I also talked to my ex-girlfriend last night. She knew him and dated him after I had dater her. I told her I thought he had drugged my drink, and as it turns out he had given her a date rape pill when they were dating.

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You need to get down to a clinic and have them check you for STD's. You may well have been cornholed literally, as well as metaphorically.

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Lots riding on this guy

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You better hope there weren't lots riding on you when you were in your drugged, oblivious state. How does the butt feel? Tender at all? Sore? Like you got fisted by a squadron of lorry drivers?

asellers07 11-11-2007 12:54 PM

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He also has a sportsbetting problem and owes all kinds of money to people, can't wait to see what happens.

Bipolar00 11-11-2007 12:57 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
Karma's a bitch. Sellers has been nothing but a good friend to me, he doesnt deserve something like this. I kno this doesnt help get ur money back but if there is something i can do let me kno....


edit glimmertwin i hope u get robbed for 9k and mocked you [censored], this aint bbv keep that [censored] out of here

STA654 11-11-2007 01:02 PM

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ban op imo.

nutsflopper 11-11-2007 01:04 PM

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Sellers has been nothing but a good friend to me, he doesnt deserve something like this.

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It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money

genius55 11-11-2007 01:08 PM

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1)is this true?

2) u should do some like non-lethal damage too him. and the only reason i saynonlethal iz becuz u should not spend too mcuh time in jail cuz of this punk.

asellers07 11-11-2007 01:11 PM

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lol @ calling me a sucker. I've hustled more money than you would believed and have never had a job. I'm just a nice guy and probably too trusting, and young at that. I'm not the only person this guy has burned and I've never fallen for anything else. The guy is just a total con artist and is a good reminder to me of who I become friends with in this community because altho there are lots of great people out there, there are tons of scumbags like this lurking in the community and following where the money goes.

Bipolar00 11-11-2007 01:14 PM

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Sellers has been nothing but a good friend to me, he doesnt deserve something like this.

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It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money

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I hope your grandmother gets robbed @ the ATM becuz its wrong to let a sucker keep her money AMIRITE?

TropAndEastern 11-11-2007 01:16 PM

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Sellers has been nothing but a good friend to me, he doesnt deserve something like this.

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It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money

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I hope your grandmother gets robbed @ the ATM becuz its wrong to let a sucker keep her money AMIRITE?

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No, you're wrong. His grandma didn't invite a known mugger to accompany her to the ATM, where she figured she'd tempt him by waving a wad of cash around.

glimmertwin 11-11-2007 01:19 PM

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edit glimmertwin i hope u get robbed for 9k and mocked you [censored], this aint bbv keep that [censored] out of here

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I'm not mocking him. If some body had given me a date rape drug, and I didn't remember anything, I'd wanna get my ass checked out. And if I'd been forcibly sodomized while I was unconscious, that would be much more important to me than the loss of the money.

Personally, I can't think why anyone would want to minimize the importance of this line of investigation -- unless they happened to be a participant to the unlawful penetration, and didn't want their actions to be discovered.

Rob121 11-11-2007 01:21 PM

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you ever find out where he disappeared too? most likely is hiding in the same place. if he didnt he had to of told someone in the time that he was back.

Bipolar00 11-11-2007 01:21 PM

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Sellers has been nothing but a good friend to me, he doesnt deserve something like this.

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It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money

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I hope your grandmother gets robbed @ the ATM becuz its wrong to let a sucker keep her money AMIRITE?

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No, you're wrong. His grandma didn't invite a known mugger to accompany her to the ATM, where she figured she'd tempt him by waving a wad of cash around.

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Fool me once, fool me twice... etc

I understand your point but i also forgot no one the internet ever makes mistakes. To be so condescending is just pathetic. Have some compassion, hate to use poker quotes but "act like you've been there"

ShortStack03 11-11-2007 01:23 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
He said he was gonna grow some weed in a rural area (we live in oklahoma) and it would be safe.

I stopped reading after that line...sounds like you had it coming though.

PokerEveryDay 11-11-2007 01:26 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
Learn the signs of cheating before you get cheated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRwwMbngTA

glimmertwin 11-11-2007 01:28 PM

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this aint bbv keep that [censored] out of here

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Brag: I'm a partner in an illicit weed farm
Beat: One of my partners drugged and robbed me.
Variance: Not sure if I got raped into the bargain

TropAndEastern 11-11-2007 01:29 PM

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Fool me once, fool me twice... etc

I understand your point but i also forgot no one the internet ever makes mistakes. To be so condescending is just pathetic. Have some compassion, hate to use poker quotes but "act like you've been there"

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It's unfortunate that the lesson to be learned is that being trusting and willing to give second chances isn't always the best trait but when the so-called "legitimate" reason for loaning the first stolen monies is to grow weed for distribution, it's hard to empathize completely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovQj9vNq8I

EWS87 11-11-2007 01:31 PM

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it never ceases to amaze me how dumb and naive people from middle america

asellers07 11-11-2007 01:32 PM

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to answer some questions

I dont need to "have my butt checked." The reason I didn't get robbed friday night is because he could never get me alone, as I ended up having a dozen people over to my place for drinks.

As for where he hides, I'm not sure. The reason I lent him money in the first place is because he was so well known around town and I thought there was no way he would scam me (I am also well known in the gambling community) because his rep would be ruined, and he wouldn't even be able to show up to gambling functions. Apparently he is a total psychopath because this didnt phase him and he continued to go to the casino even tho he owes various people money and has been hiding from them. Even tho so many people know him, he disappears for extended times and nobody knows where he goes. He must be leading a double life and switching back and forth after completing another scam. He does all of this just so he can get a gambling fix and possibly do drugs, what a [censored] life.

I would really like to find out how I can attain information on him, if anyone has any ideas. I know a restaurant that he's been working at the last couple months, but he books town after doing these scams so he wont be working there anymore. I can contact the restaurant and maybe they will give me his information, address, etc. But I doubt they will give out their employees info to anyone. I might need to have an office go with me or something.

Bipolar00 11-11-2007 01:36 PM

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this aint bbv keep that [censored] out of here

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Brag: I'm a partner in an illicit weed farm
Beat: One of my partners drugged and robbed me.
Variance: Not sure if I got raped into the bargain

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If this was how it was posted i wouldnt have said a thing. Clearly your post is different than the OP.

Trop, you make some valid points. TY

asellers07 11-11-2007 01:36 PM

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And for the weed thing, I was having nothing to do with it. I was just backing him the money so he could do it. Real sketchy, but nothing illegal in my part because I was essentially backing/loaning him for a venture, even tho it was illegal I would personally have absolutely nothing to do with it, have no idea where it was, would never see any of it, only loaning him money and getting it back. But thats beside the point. I've obviously made mistakes and been young and naive, but if someone has any ideas on how I can advance please educate me

Rob121 11-11-2007 01:37 PM

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make up some [censored] whys it important that you get a hold of him. say you owe him money or something. i think that would work.

asellers07 11-11-2007 01:39 PM

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Also, he got on my computer and emptied my FTP account for a decent amount. Can full tilt seriously not send me my funds back? Anyone have experience here

glimmertwin 11-11-2007 01:41 PM

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I dont need to "have my butt checked." The reason I didn't get robbed friday night is because he could never get me alone, as I ended up having a dozen people over to my place for drinks.


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Co-conspirators, obviously.

Sorry, asellers. I'm just teasing you but I'm genuinely sorry for your loss. I hope you get at least some part of your money back.

I'd still be worried about *my* butt under the circumstances though.

Rob121 11-11-2007 01:42 PM

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send them a police report immediatly? that would be the only thing i could think of. i think your screwed there.

nutsflopper 11-11-2007 01:45 PM

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it never ceases to amaze me how dumb and naive people from middle america

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go on...

evil_ronnie 11-11-2007 01:48 PM

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it never ceases to amaze me how dumb and naive people from america are

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I fixed your post

BTMegaCash 11-11-2007 02:03 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
KYLE...is that you buddy

wet work 11-11-2007 02:05 PM

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conspiracy laws

BTMegaCash 11-11-2007 02:06 PM

Re: I was robbed yesterday for $9,000
 
my buddy kyle had the same general thing happen to him except instead of weed it was X Box 360's which at the time could make you a profit...and then some dude wrote him fake checks to pay him back and then kyle ended up lending the same guy more money since the guy had written him a check for the original scam plus a couple thousand...


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