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how much if any does a b&m pro tip dealers? i mostly play 5/10nl

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If I profit $100 I'll give $1 or if I win a series of smaller pots that total $100 I'll tip $1. If it's a big double up or a big pot I MAY give them $5. If the dealer is good then I'll tip almost whenever I win a pot even if I profit less than $100. I guess what I mean is that if the dealer sucks I won't tip until I profit $100. I play 5/10nl too.

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If I profit $100 I'll give $1 or if I win a series of smaller pots that total $100 I'll tip $1. If it's a big double up or a big pot I MAY give them $5. If the dealer is good then I'll tip almost whenever I win a pot even if I profit less than $100. I guess what I mean is that if the dealer sucks I won't tip until I profit $100. I play 5/10nl too.

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That sounds fair. I make it 1$ for a 'large pot' without really defining it. Where I play the dealers pool tips, which makes me less generous.

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wow, i feel like a shmuck! i play in the 1 2 and just realized how much money im losing on tipping to much, and im a winning player. im a bartender and a server, and never really realized what i was doing. i just thought everyone else was really cheap. thank you!

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wow, i feel like a shmuck! i play in the 1 2 and just realized how much money im losing on tipping to much, and im a winning player. im a bartender and a server, and never really realized what i was doing. i just thought everyone else was really cheap. thank you!

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Weird, I was just thinking I tip bartenders and servers too much. We just gave a waiter $30 on a $130 bill at the Palm in AC

Edit: I don't know if it was really worth $160 for the two of us, but it was pretty close, 14 oz filet mignon was pretty awesome

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rofl

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when i started playin at casinos i would sometimes get carried away w/ big pots and tip too much. after a few weeks i learned how much it was costin me in the long run (way too damn much). this is what i do now when i play 2/5 or 5/10:

less than $50 = no tip
$50-$100 = $1 if i like the dealer, no tip otherwise
$100-$200 = $1
$200-$500 = $2
anythin above $500 = $3 if he/she's a fast dealer that i like, $2 otherwise.

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I've been in the service industry quite a bit and so I naturally tip a lot.

I play 5/10 and tip this way:

Blinds: no tip
30-100 -- $1
101-250 -- $2
251-400 -- $3
400+ -- $4 (or $5[one chip] if i really like the dealer.

I am a very tight player so rake/tip doesn't actually cost me as much as some other players who tip less per hand won.

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i dont play at casino's much but one thing is shure
im dutch
those ppl get salary
i dont tip
certainly not with the big ass rake they have here

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If you are a regular it is a good idea to tip enough so that the dealers like you (will be on your side explaining controversy to floor) and so the players see that you are not a money grubbing nit.

I always make sure to give each dealer a buck (2 if they deal me a big pot) and I am always nice to them regardless. Be generous it is good karma and besides it only comes out to a couple of bucks an hour anyway. People who tip every pot no matter what are usually losing players and therefore do not notice how much they are losing by tipping (because they lose it all anyway).

If you are not a regular only tip if the dealer is exceptionally skilled or goes out of their way for you in any way.

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I guess I way overtip. I feel bad when I don't tip after picking up the blinds + a couple limps. Anything more than a few bucks gets $1 and $100 or more is usually a redbird.
The other day I picked up a decent pot at $1/2 and meant to flip the dealer a redbird and accidentally tossed two. I tried to grab one back but it was out of reach, and I didn't want to say anything, so I just let it go.
I'll just consider it a deposit in the poker karma bank.

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If you are not a regular only tip if the dealer is exceptionally skilled or goes out of their way for you in any way.

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If you are not a regular then live poker is not how you make a living. It's a hobby or secondary income. A small tip on decent pots isn't gonna make or break your poker weekend.

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I tip 1 dollar every hand I win except a few times when I just steal the blinds. Then I usually feel guilty and tip anyways.

I tip 1 dollar anytime a dealer is being abused by a player and acts professionally.

I tip 1 dollar anytime the dealer is exceptional at fills.

I tip 1 dollar anytiem the dealer gives me the time out of the time pot without me asking (I dont want this to become a time pot thread)

I tip 1 dollar if I like the dealer.

I tip the bathroom guy 10 dollars every week.

I tip the cashier 2 dollars.

Your job is a lot better than theirs.

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I worked as a server/bartender for years, so I'm a good tipper. Those jobs suck and they are harder than most people realize.

I go to my "local" casino (1.5 hours away) a few times a year. I tip too much, but I don't mind. At least $1 per pot, sometimes $2 and $5 for big pots. The dealers always remember me and go out of their way to help me at the desk, etc. I consider tipping just part of live play. I believe in Karma, too.

Haven't left the casino down yet (knock wood), including paying tips, food, drink, and hotel.

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If "those" jobs suck so much, ya might want to try doing something different for a living.

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i play 10/20 nl and tip like 1 dollar for larger pots, nothing for smaller pots. Sometimes 2 dollars for a monster pot.

I dont really feel bad for the poker dealers, they have a very sweet job. They get like $40 an hour for something that requires pretty minimal education. It really isnt that bad relative to some other jobs I can think of. Imagine working a toll booth.. those guys dont get tipped!

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The high stakes poker players seem to tip a red chip when they take down a pot and those are a hell of a lot bigger pots than most of us are winning. I think I remember Phil Laak saying that he was tipping between $5-$100 depending on the size, but I only vaguely remember the episode so I'm not sure if that's 100% accurate.

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i play 10/20 nl and tip like 1 dollar for larger pots, nothing for smaller pots. Sometimes 2 dollars for a monster pot.

I dont really feel bad for the poker dealers, they have a very sweet job. They get like $40 an hour for something that requires pretty minimal education. It really isnt that bad relative to some other jobs I can think of. Imagine working a toll booth.. those guys dont get tipped!

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I don't know that they have it that good. Maybe the best dealing jobs only.

Since we are talking karma and accounting, who else in the casino do people tip?

the cage
Chip runners
Floor
Brush
Janitors
Bathroom cleaners

did I miss some?

Not all of these apply everywhere, but one can see how generosity could get very costly.

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If you are not a regular only tip if the dealer is exceptionally skilled or goes out of their way for you in any way.

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If you are not a regular then live poker is not how you make a living. It's a hobby or secondary income. A small tip on decent pots isn't gonna make or break your poker weekend.

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If you are not at your normal casino or play almost exclusively online I meant...

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If you are a regular it is a good idea to tip enough so that the dealers like you (will be on your side explaining controversy to floor)

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If I thought a tip would make a dealer be anything but impartial, I would never tip that dealer.

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If I thought a tip would make a dealer be anything but impartial, I would never tip that dealer.

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If "those" jobs suck so much, ya might want to try doing something different for a living.

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"worked" is past tense. She didn't say she was working those jobs now.

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If "those" jobs suck so much, ya might want to try doing something different for a living.

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Hence the use of the past tense.

Edit: Thanks, Bluegrass -- you beat me to it.

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I dont think of myself as a pro at all... as a matter of fact Im completely the opposite. Im the dealer you guys are toking. And Im good at what I do. I appriciate any toke I get from $1 to $25 (which I got from a very nice gentleman just two nights ago for a $600 pot in 1/2NL).

However. Its the A-holes that dont tip a dime that I dont understand. These are the same people that give a bartender $1 per drink and tip 10 to 15% when they go out and eat... and guess what. They make the same base salary as I do... Yup thats right, I make minimum wage which after taxes and insurance comes out to less than $300 every two weeks. And thats working full time.

I have no respect for those pros (and most of them do concider themselves either pros or semi-pros).

Thats my two cents.

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I tip 1 dollar every hand I win except a few times when I just steal the blinds. Then I usually feel guilty and tip anyways.

I tip 1 dollar anytime a dealer is being abused by a player and acts professionally.

I tip 1 dollar anytime the dealer is exceptional at fills.

I tip 1 dollar anytiem the dealer gives me the time out of the time pot without me asking (I dont want this to become a time pot thread)

I tip 1 dollar if I like the dealer.

I tip the bathroom guy 10 dollars every week.

I tip the cashier 2 dollars.

Your job is a lot better than theirs.

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Yep this is about right...

But I also tip the valet coming and going $1. And tip excellent mistake free dealers $1 at the end of their down and tell them why.

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I typically tip 1% - 1% is about the correct amount to tip for the work they are doing. I don't know anyone that tips more. Some tip a max of $1 a pot regardless of size. However, a little more on the big pots helps to keep the dealer on your side if a dispute arises.

I round up to 1% so that it is at least one dollar, but:

1) I do not tip if there is no flop action, or if there is only one flop caller and no turn action (in a limit game that is) - this pot is too small (under 20 - 30) to tip. (NOTE: This is here in LA, where the drop after the flop is heinous, regardless of pot size - so without flop action, the pot is miniscule).

2) I tip extra if the dealer is exceptional and professional. For instance, when they are leaving the table and they have been very sharp, I'll toss em another buck.

3) I DO NOT TIP AT ALL dealers that are rude, surly, unprofessional, incompetent, or that don't pay attention and don't do their jobs.

As an example, last night a dealer was asleep at the wheel - and she dealt the river before action was complete. After that river card was reshuffled, a new river card brought a retarded chaser his runner runner flush,. killing my two pair.

I lost a $152 pot as a result. That dealer (Hong at H.Park) will never see another tip from me, until she pushes 152 winning pots my way.



AB

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Wowzer, I guess you can call me a low limit pro as I play 3-6 days a week and do pretty well. I play 1-2 NL $100max at the Hard Rock in Hollywood, Florida. I tip way too freaking much compared to you guys. Oh well I will rectify that. I will still tip but not nearly as much.

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What's 100% accurate is that most pros tip a buck if you're lucky and the rest are stiffs.

My fav tho was this schmuck who "moved to vegas to play poker for a living." In order to avoid having to tip an entire $1, he brought his own fifty cent pieces. The best part was his claim that this "saved him ten grand a year." Do the math. Assuming he's saving 50 cents a potn that's about 55 pots a day, every day, all year long. Ooooooookaaaaaaaay. He lasted about a month.

Al

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I do agree with Alien. If the dealer doeant do their job then the tips should be hard to come by. But I still have a beef with the people that dont tip at all...PERIOD

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What's 100% accurate is that most pros tip a buck if you're lucky and the rest are stiffs.

My fav tho was this schmuck who "moved to vegas to play poker for a living." In order to avoid having to tip an entire $1, he brought his own fifty cent pieces. The best part was his claim that this "saved him ten grand a year." Do the math. Assuming he's saving 50 cents a potn that's about 55 pots a day, every day, all year long. Ooooooookaaaaaaaay. He lasted about a month.

Al

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Back when they used to have 50 cent pieces on the tables I saw a guy bring a roll of quarters to the 40-80 so he wouldn't have to tip an entire 50 cents.

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Back when they used to have 50 cent pieces on the tables I saw a guy bring a roll of quarters to the 40-80 so he wouldn't have to tip an entire 50 cents.

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lol that website is real 'LOW' rent
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And tip excellent mistake free dealers $1 at the end of their down and tell them why.

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I just want to say that as a dealer who genuinely tries to do a good job, this sort of gesture really gets noticed and is very much appreciated.

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If I thought a tip would make a dealer be anything but impartial, I would never tip that dealer.

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Hellew. Dealers that are not impartial all the time, regardless of the tipping status of a player, should be kicked in the nuts, square. Dealers who pull this kind of crap are the ones that give good dealers a bad name.

Unfortunately, the poker boom has brought in lots of people that don't give a damn about poker, but want to jump on the bandwagon. This really hurts the few dealers (like me) who actually care about poker and have been around since long before the boom.

These days I generously tip dealers who obviously care and are always trying to improve, learn etc. Even a new dealer who's not very good, but is obviously trying to learn and improve, I'll be generous. The ones that are just lumps of flesh sitting around waiting to be toked I tip accordingly.

Al

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I don't tip if there's no flop action, even if it's like 500 dollar preflop taken down without flop seen.
My standard is, 100-300 -- 1 dollar tip, 300+ --2 dollar and that's it. You can call me a cheap ass but I don't care. Oh, there's one time at Caesar's where I won a 500 dollar pot and I only tipped 1 dollar to the Korean dealer. Ever since that cheap tip, he started to stare at me for the rest of his time on my table and tossed my cards in the air everytime he dealt me. I went to the floor and had him punished. So, go ahead and complain more about our tips, I don't really care. They didn't choose you to deal for players, YOU CHOSE to be a dealer, so be professional and competent and your tips will come alone the way.

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Not sure if you're directing these comments at me, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume these were general comments.

All these tipping schemas are just "like whatever." I understand you can't be a ridiculously huge tipper if you're playing for a living, but it should be a personal choice based on the dealer's merit and whether you appreciate them.

You should also tip and encourage dealers and floors who obviously care about poker and want to do a good job and improve themselves.

Al

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Basically I tip $1 for a pot of any size: a couple of limpers or a raise then I take it down on the flop. That's a bit more than some but then I generally never tip more than a dollar even if the pot is huge. For an average dealer dealing Hold'em this should be $25-$30/hour. This seems fair for small stakes.

My thing is I never tip chip runners or the cage. Is this bad? Partially I never think about it at the time and I really don't like giving away a bunch of money.

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one dollar no matter how big the pot. If it's particularly small. I usually tip zero. I play 15/30

lastnight I DID tip 3 dollars. The pot wasn't particularly big, but it was the best dealer of all time, and he noticed it right away when the guy shorted the pot on me.

Tipping more than a dollar would significantly affect my takehome. Maybe when I'm playing 40/80 I'll tip 2 dollars, but I think one is perfectly reasonable.

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What's 100% accurate is that most pros tip a buck if you're lucky and the rest are stiffs.

My fav tho was this schmuck who "moved to vegas to play poker for a living." In order to avoid having to tip an entire $1, he brought his own fifty cent pieces. The best part was his claim that this "saved him ten grand a year." Do the math. Assuming he's saving 50 cents a potn that's about 55 pots a day, every day, all year long. Ooooooookaaaaaaaay. He lasted about a month.

Al

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lol I brought 50 cent chips to the bally's 4/8 game a couple years ago.

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I dont really feel bad for the poker dealers, they have a very sweet job. They get like $40 an hour for something that requires pretty minimal education.

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So long as you know that most dealers don't make this kind of money, and it does require at least a little training and investment. Learning 3 games and paying for my casino license cost me about 12 weeks and around $1,500 out of pocket.

I would call it a sweet job if it weren't for all the dealer abuse, I mean I like pitching cards and poker and all that. It's a decent job for fast money or someone going to grad school or whatever, but it's pretty lousy for a career imo.

Plus I hear they like urinate on and stab dealers in California