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10K post - Musings on learning and the learning mindset
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As animals, humans are specialized in not being specialized. They can live in caves as hunters/gatherers and they can live in a skyscraper and make a living on the internets clicking buttons. This means that humans have an uncanny ability to adapt themselves to the environment, to find patterns, to generate rules and principles and to make them part of their subconscious as easy as it were to breathe. If you understand this then you will understand a big part of how we can learn well. It is by coming into new environments and finding our way through it. This is called a challenge and if you can learn to love the challenge, then you will succeed. On the lookout One way of never learning new things is by assuming we already know what there is to know. A good way of learning is by assuming there are always things we can learn. That way, we are on the lookout for things we do not already know, or could know better. Balance Assuming we already know what there is to know is bad, but jumpings into environments too alien is also bad. This is where balance comes into play. We want to keep challenging ourselves, but we also want to remain with a certain degree of familiarity, which gives us confidence. Learning how to balance and to recognize out-of-balance keeps us on the learning curve without risking a relapse. Confidence When we know we need to keep challenging ourselves then we also start to plan ahead. We set goals and from those goals we can derive potential things that we need to learn. This is important because in order to keep our confidence up, we must remain in a state of familiarity which means we can investigate what we might come across. Patterns The human mind is very skilled in finding patterns. Some short term patterns might be deceitful though. This is why we must investigate thoroughly what underlying principles are at work, and we should try on a regular basis to keep reiterating those principles to ourselves to make them part of our nature. This is the reason that buying yourself something every now and then helps your brain to materialize that you’re doing something good in the long run. Fitness of the mind This leads to the next point: the state of mind for making good decisions. A state of mind that leads to good decisions is one that is clear, focused, aware, and not inhibited by other things. This is the reason why we keep a good bankroll; so that our mind stays clear and we don’t start worrying about a loss or a minor mistake (on the other hand we do have to play at stakes that matter to us; and this is where *balance* comes back again). Having a good state of mind is what you can call the fitness of the mind. One has to find out for one’s self how to attain a good mind-fitness. But first and foremost, one must need to be *aware* of how clear, focused and aware one’s mind is. If we are not aware of those things, we cannot change our behaviour, actions and attitude to make it better. Key to learning Lastly; awareness is what gives us information based on which we can make better decisions than we could do otherwise. First we challenge ourselves to be more aware, then we try to practise using more information and how to use it wisely, and finally we want to create a situation where we can do these first two steps. If we do not create a situation where we can learn, then we will not do so. So if we want to learn, we want to set ourselves up to learn well. Good luck. http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8159/22616937la6.jpg |
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first ship it
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LOL, just kidding. I liked the post and it should help a lot of people with their game. I think it would be cool if people would talk about different things to do that uses these theories. |
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finally!
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fold pf
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I've seen this somewhere before.
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tl;dr LOL, just kidding. I liked the post and it should help a lot of people with their game. I think it would be cool if people would talk about different things to do that uses these theories. [/ QUOTE ] most people need to set their egos aside for starters. |
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I'd like to add this quote from A First Zen Reader: [ QUOTE ] There are those who contemplate suicide in the bitterness of failure in life. But for a Buddhist this is pointless. When we fail, it is already progress to understand that we have failed. We train ourselves by making that failure a stepping-stone for a pace forward. The practice of Buddhism is to realize that the present succes is the hundred failures of the past. [/ QUOTE ] |
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it took you a month to write 8 paragraphs?
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I liked it! Thanks.
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nh, too tired to fully comprehend, will reread after caffeine.
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I thought the human mind was really bad at identifying patterns.
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nh, too tired to fully comprehend, will reread after caffeine. [/ QUOTE ] i think you are missing the point! |
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it took you a month to write 8 paragraphs? [/ QUOTE ] It's damn hard to say so many words about nothing, I couldn't do it. |
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nice
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nh [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I'd like to add this quote from A First Zen Reader: [ QUOTE ] There are those who contemplate suicide in the bitterness of failure in life. But for a Buddhist this is pointless. When we fail, it is already progress to understand that we have failed. We train ourselves by making that failure a stepping-stone for a pace forward. The practice of Buddhism is to realize that the present succes is the hundred failures of the past. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] That's nice. |
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[ QUOTE ] it took you a month to write 8 paragraphs? [/ QUOTE ] It's damn hard to say so many words about nothing, I couldn't do it. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] On the lookout One way of never learning new things is by assuming we already know what there is to know. A good way of learning is by assuming there are always things we can learn. That way, we are on the lookout for things we do not already know, or could know better. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] it took you a month to write 8 paragraphs? [/ QUOTE ] It's damn hard to say so many words about nothing, I couldn't do it. [/ QUOTE ] pawned! nice1 nielso [ QUOTE ] On the lookout One way of never learning new things is by assuming we already know what there is to know. A good way of learning is by assuming there are always things we can learn. That way, we are on the lookout for things we do not already know, or could know better. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
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Bump for American just waking up crew.
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it took you a month to write 8 paragraphs? [/ QUOTE ] |
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this is surprisingly good. No 3 i find applies also to human relationships.
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I thought the human mind was really bad at identifying patterns. [/ QUOTE ] Uhhhh what |
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Balance Assuming we already know what there is to know is bad, but jumpings into environments too alien is also bad. This is where balance comes into play. We want to keep challenging ourselves, but we also want to remain with a certain degree of familiarity, which gives us confidence. Learning how to balance and to recognize out-of-balance keeps us on the learning curve without risking a relapse. [/ QUOTE ] Perfect illustration of this concept: [ QUOTE ] G_Dollaz wrote: FWIW I had a bad experience w/ MDMA in terms of actual coaching. He seems like a good guy while he's coaching and definitely makes himself available and I have no problem w/ him whatsoever. I feel like he tried to imrpove my game and was attentive and all that while he was coaching, for me it just didn't work for some reason. He's the only coach I've ever had and the reason I've never hired nor will ever hire another coach that charges by the hour. I'm not saying others shouldn't use him and he has a great reputation as a coach on here and I'm sure it's for good reason, I'm just posting this so a small stakes player doesn't read this and go w/ him b/c they think it's a guarenteed way to beat msnl, it took me quite some time to get back to playing my A game after being coached. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1 [/ QUOTE ] |
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very nice
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Nielso,
I have a great idea! Use specific, detailed poker examples for all of the OP paragraphs and redeem your extremely mediocre 10k post. |
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Nielso, I have a great idea! Use specific, detailed poker examples for all of the OP paragraphs [/ QUOTE ] Oh, that's great. Can't wait to hear them! |
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You went to the effort to open a new 2+2 account while coming up with this so as to not wreck your 10k post.
You obviously care a lot about this and thought it would be a huge hit. It wasn't. It's too vague. There are no examples (until the MDMA coaching one). Provide examples and this would probably be a good post. I'm giving you constructive critisism. |
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You went to the effort to open a new 2+2 account while coming up with this so as to not wreck your 10k post. You obviously care a lot about this and thought it would be a huge hit. It wasn't. It's too vague. There are no examples (until the MDMA coaching one). Provide examples and this would probably be a good post. I'm giving you constructive critisism. [/ QUOTE ] I actually chose not to include examples in the OP. The point is to understand the concepts/principles, and not to get distracted by examples that follow from it, and having people go for the quick fix instead of the bigger picture. You'll get a feel for the concepts when you try to think about them yourself and how it applies to *you*. That's what creativity is all about. That's what learning to learn is all about. It's not do this do that, but understanding *how* you develop and being able to reflect upon it *by yourself*. That's why I put the MDMA example in there. I came across it today and I recognized the principle at work. And by going through this recognizing and reflecting on the concept, I personally understand it better now, because *I* went through it. |
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My last reply,
It's *my* opinion that not *many* people will bother because *this* post was *poorly* written and reminds *me* of *papers* I have tried to *bull [censored]* in my academic *career* |
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My last reply, It's *my* opinion that not *many* people will bother because *this* post was *poorly* written and reminds *me* of *papers* I have tried to *bull [censored]* in my academic *career* [/ QUOTE ] I just didn't read it because it was a Nielso post |
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Gonna take the few minutes it would take to read this post and followup comments and use them on something more constructive like masturbating furiously to manupods avatar
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