Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

Is this chip +ev? I'm almost gurnatedd getting itm by folding but i call almost 100% to play for first.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4110133691: $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) (31220528), Table 1 - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:52:29 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: SF_Psycho (1,570)
Seat 2: floppeyone (4,215)
Seat 5: fold and repeat (1,850)
Seat 9: gbones420 (5,865)
floppeyone posts the small blind of 250
fold and repeat posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to floppeyone [As Ac]
gbones420 raises to 5,865, and is all in
SF_Psycho folds
floppeyone ?

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

omg fistpumpinstashipitcrucialcalltowin1stplacemoniez! !!

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

Please don't fold. You have AA.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

Call please. This is probably the best spot you'll get to be a big favourite to win this sng.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

No, no it's not

Shove..

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

but is it a +cev play considering 2 peeps have 3bb and the guy covering me is pushing?

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

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omg fistpumpinstashipitcrucialcalltowin1stplacemoniez! !!

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QFT

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

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but is it a +cev play considering 2 peeps have 3bb and the guy covering me is pushing?

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hell yes this is hudge +cev. the 2 shorties are no where close enough for you to ever consider folding in this spot. I'd prolly still call if even one of them had 1 chip.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

edit:Just making sure, oh ya and sorry for not converting both times, im multitabling right now

Full Tilt Poker Game #4110133691: $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) (31220528), Table 1 - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:52:29 ET - 2007/11/08
Seat 1: SF_Psycho (1,570)
Seat 2: floppeyone (4,215)
Seat 5: fold and repeat (1,850)
Seat 9: gbones420 (5,865)
floppeyone posts the small blind of 250
fold and repeat posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to floppeyone [As Ac]
gbones420 raises to 5,865, and is all in
SF_Psycho folds
floppeyone calls 3,965, and is all in
fold and repeat folds
gbones420 shows [8h 8d]
floppeyone shows [As Ac]
Uncalled bet of 1,650 returned to gbones420
*** FLOP *** [9d Jh 6d]
*** TURN *** [9d Jh 6d] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [9d Jh 6d 7h] [Ks]
gbones420 shows a pair of Eights
floppeyone shows a pair of Aces
floppeyone wins the pot (8,930) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,930 | Rake 0
Board: [9d Jh 6d 7h Ks]
Seat 1: SF_Psycho (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: floppeyone (small blind) showed [As Ac] and won (8,930) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: fold and repeat (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: gbones420 showed [8h 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

basically u win the tournament if u win, so you have to call


EDIT: and do a fist pump ldo

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

Of course it's +cEV. That means chip equity. There's no situation you can invent that doesn't invoplve a ridiculous number of dead cards where shoving AA isn't +cEV. The question you're asking is "Is it +$EV?" $EV is prize pool pool equity, and yes, it is. I doubt it's even close.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

never fold AA preflop in a cash/tournement onless its a sat and you are sure about ur seat

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

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edit:Just making sure, oh ya and sorry for not converting both times, im multitabling right now


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Wait before finishing before posting. And plz stop multitabling until you know the answer to questions like this.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

Call KK too for sure.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

KK+ is an easy call against any opponent.
QQ is a call against someone pushing wide.
JJ is a call if you like thin edges and your opponent is pushing very wide. (Like he should)
TT and AK should always be folded.

Re: Folding Aces on the bubble?
 

One other thing to consider is with blinds this high one of those two short stacks will be breathing down your neck if you get a bad orbit or 2. Easy call.