99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

<font color="blue">villain just sat down at this table, but ive played with him recently and he was Laggy and real aggro postflop - like 30/18/4ish. he does seem to understand the fundamentals(proper raising ranges, position, etc) but hes def not the typical 2p2 type player
he wins lots of pots w/o showdown and generally bets when checked to. ive never seen him over bet. </font>

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $98.50
SB: $532.35
Hero (BB): $180.45
UTG: $249.70
MP: $96.45
CO: $196.90

Pre-Flop: 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, MP calls $13
<font color="blue"> villain knows i very rarely (never) have a 5 here so my ch/r should look pretty bluffy, and i think hes capable of shoving any pair 33+, plus lots of bluffs with whatever other crap he raises PF. </font>

Turn: ($42.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $75.45 and is All-In</font>, Hero now hates his line
<font color="blue"> whoa
wasnt expecting that.
i was gonna ch/rai on non A turns but wtf? </font>

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

get it all in for metagame

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

lol i wd want to call too. but DONT!

ur only really beating air here or a flush draw, i just dont think ur good enough of the time to make it profitable.
plus as u say, uve never seen him overbet - and whenever i call an overbet, they always seem to have it.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

if he wants me to call, why would he shove 2x pot?

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

its a good question, and i dont know.
but after ur flop line, u appear to have a stong hand. Or a flush draw.

he might put u on clubs, and with stack sizes, he wants to get max value from ur draw. if he bet 30 or so, that leaves an awkward river bet, so he might figure to just stick it in. he seems pretty donky with those stats.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

thats the thing... i really dont think he puts me on a strong hand. why would i check the turn after ch/r the flop with any hand that i wanted to get all in?

and why would villain just flat my ch/r on the flop with anything legit?

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

the less he is familiar with you the more i would be inclined to call

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

although not saying i wouldn't NECESSARILY call if you had history but in a vacuum you'll have to try to outthink yourself if you guys have a ton of history

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

the c/r flop and check turn 'looks' like a club draw trying to get a free river i guess.

meh - its closer than i first thought given the strange line, id be interested in other peoples views.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

id prolly call for the fact hes short.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

while i seem to see villains turn over TcXc here somewhat often, i am still very inclined to call, because i think he is doing this with a lot of pairs that you are ahead of.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

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id prolly call for the fact hes short.

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hes not short. this is only .5/1 but most of the table just happened to be deep stacked

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

oh [censored], sorry. thought it was nl200 lol. hmm, id still be really tempted to call but i think its a fold. wa/wb

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

specially if hes aware of his image at the table, then hes just looking to get paid off and hoping you will call

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts
 

sick spot

I cant really help you with this hand as I have no idea what I would do... I had folded while my time bank ran out.

If I would guess he have a flushdraw with the 10 of clubs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

Probablly call. Whilst I think they always have it when they do this, they tend to do this on the river, not no the turn. This looks a pocket pair. I would be inclined to say something smaller than 99 because of pf action.

Meh. These spots are SO player dependant.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

I have a note on my desk that says: "believe overbets", after calling way to much in these spots.

what I am saying is; give him the benefit of the doubt until you have seen him showdown one of his hands played like this, hopefully vs someone else.

Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n
 

thnks for the replies. i called like a donkey thinking he was completely fos.
of course he pwned me with AA and i felt like an idio.
i still have no idea wtf he was thinkg with his shove, because really, i should never have any hand that can call that, right?