KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

Villain is 12/3/1 over 1200 hands; Flop bet is a little small, esp. w/the flush draw.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($60.40)
SB ($49.35)
BB ($38.95)
UTG ($9.50)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($40.90)
Hero ($48)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($6.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, Button calls $4.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($15.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

bet/fold. He'll never raise worse here. If he doesn't raise and you make it to the river, value bet. He'd raise the flop or turn if you were beaten.

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

bet 12, if not raised , bet river 3/4 the pot on blank card

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

What's a 12/3 calling the turn with that I beat? What's he calling the flop with that I beat?

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

AK,KJ,AQ

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

and a flush draw

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

I'd put villan on AA, AK, KQ, KJ, and maybe 88-QQ (depending on your stats and how well he is paying attention to your play).

If you have been LAG, make a bet that looks like a bluff but will get called by a second best hand. A pot sized bet ruins his pot odds on a flush and might get called with Kx or a pocket middle pair.

If you have been tight/passive, continue to make small value bets.

In either case, I would assume that you have the best hand and might have to pay off a set of 8s.

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

I've been playing somewhere between 15/10 and 12/9, pretty aggressive in position, although I'm c-betting less in three way pots than I used to.

In my experience, a 12/3 doesn't care that much how aggressive you are, but more whether he has a pocket pair and whether he hits his set. I think his range looks something like: AK, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 22, 88, KK. He never has KJ here. Maybe KQs rarely.

Bet/fold looks good here as I'm ahead of his range. How bad is check/call?

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

I think c/c lets him determine how big of a pot he wants to play. He's only bloating the pot with hands you don't beat I believe. I'd rather b/f

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

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I think c/c lets him determine how big of a pot he wants to play. He's only bloating the pot with hands you don't beat I believe. I'd rather b/f

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If c-c lets him bet better hands and check worse ones then c-f isn't a bad play, especially if he may pay off light on the river with a hand that he was folding to a 2nd barrel, putting you on a missed draw.

b/f is still a fine line, but as OP pointed out it can be hard to take this particular villain to value-town when there are so few worse made hands he will call with on two more streets.

Surf

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

What if he never makes a PSB? As in, he's a habitual underbettor.

Re: KQ turns top two vs. a 12/3/1
 

I think checking is bad as he may check AK and his draws. He will show up with draws sometimes because he has position even though he doesn't know how to use it.