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I don't even need to comment on this kind of absurdity.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21097673/ Unfortunetely the yahoo video doesn't seem to be working now. At the one school they interview a girl was given detention for hugging another girl. |
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Private schools ftw!
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FFS don't we have better things to worry about? Millions and millions of human beings world wide are starving or sick or killing each other (amongst other real problems, like a 90+ % incumbent re-election rate in this country) and some people are sitting around having a debate on whether we should ban hugs in school.
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It’s not just Texas. At the Percy Julian Middle School in Oak Park, Ill., hugging hasn’t been banned outright, but teachers and administrators have banned what they call “extreme hugging” in hallways. [/ QUOTE ] I've gotta get me some of that. |
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FFS don't we have better things to worry about? Millions and millions of human beings world wide are starving or sick or killing each other (amongst other real problems, like a 90+ % incumbent re-election rate in this country) and some people are sitting around having a debate on whether we should ban hugs in school. [/ QUOTE ] If my school supervisor spent more time worrying about that stuff as opposed to how to properly run a school I would be pissed. |
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[ QUOTE ] It’s not just Texas. At the Percy Julian Middle School in Oak Park, Ill., hugging hasn’t been banned outright, but teachers and administrators have banned what they call “extreme hugging” in hallways. [/ QUOTE ] I've gotta get me some of that. [/ QUOTE ] THIS IS X-TREME HUGGIN'!! http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Tiger%20Hug.jpg |
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I don't even need to comment on this kind of absurdity. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21097673/ Unfortunetely the yahoo video doesn't seem to be working now. At the one school they interview a girl was given detention for hugging another girl. [/ QUOTE ] I just read the whole thing and now i'm angry. At first this stuff is just absurd and silly [ QUOTE ] At Kilmer, administrators said the ban was enacted because while most touching may be welcome, some touching isn’t. [/ QUOTE ] Jesus [censored] christ. |
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what a bunch of fascists
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If the only 'issue' left in terms of "how to properly run a school" is whether hugs should be banned or not you've done more than enough thinking about that how to properly run a school.
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If the only 'issue' left in terms of "how to properly run a school" is whether hugs should be banned or not you've done more than enough thinking about that how to properly run a school. [/ QUOTE ] I've got a feeling that there is other pressing issues at that school. |
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Indeed, this would generally be the case. All the more reason to skip the "ZOMG should we ban hugging in the hallway!?" debate.
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Hugging was happening extensively and becoming the norm. We were worried it might become inappropriate. So we nipped it in the bud,” headmaster Steven Kenning told “The Times” [of London]. [/ QUOTE ] QFT I can't tell you how many times I've seen it, one second two kids are innocently hugging goodbye the next BAM! They're hanging naked upsidedown from a swing with a midget and a donkey. |
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Man, this is insane. If my old high school enters down this same path I'm going to write an angry letter. Essentially, it comes down to the parents though. Apparently, some, like the mom mentioned in the article, are over protective absolute IDIOTS who have no business raising children in the first place, or living, for that matter. If the district has a majority like that, what can you do? I don't see this happening in my home town though. |
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Man, this is insane. If my old high school enters down this same path I'm going to write an angry letter. Essentially, it comes down to the parents though. Apparently, some, like the mom mentioned in the article, are over protective absolute IDIOTS who have no business raising children in the first place, or living, for that matter. If the district has a majority like that, what can you do? I don't see this happening in my home town though. [/ QUOTE ] While I'm sure most districts have a few of those crazy, over-protecting, perhaps conservative Christian moms, I can't believe that there is ever a majority for going through with such a ban. Was there ever a vote? It seems to me that they just fear that it may become inappropriate some day, and thus ban it. That's just the completely wrong approach. Somebody correct me when hugs become dangerous. |
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FFS don't we have better things to worry about? Millions and millions of human beings world wide are starving or sick or killing each other (amongst other real problems, like a 90+ % incumbent re-election rate in this country) and some people are sitting around having a debate on whether we should ban hugs in school. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, and protecting our country is more important than the "minor" liberties we give up in the Patriot Act. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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T F I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. No way this would fly in Wisconsin. Well, maybe in those pussy cities like Madison... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link |
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I got berated by one of my teachers in high school for hugging my crying female friend.
I asked her what to do instead, and she replied I could put my hand on her shoulder. |
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] [x] non sequitur [x] attack on bush [ ] irritating smiley [ ] lol america sucks [ ] you're all racist hicks! |
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I got berated by one of my teachers in high school for hugging my crying female friend. I asked her what to do instead, and she replied I could put my hand on her shoulder. [/ QUOTE ] Gosh, she is very clear about what is allowable or not. But I'll stick with holding hands down the street with people pf the same sex. I mean, if it is good enough for the prez, must be good enough for the USA. Just to make things clear, I see nothing wrong with holding hands, but I have spend many years in different cultures, neither do I see anything wrong with hugging, same or different sexes, and finally I see nothing wrong with homosexuality or heterosexuality, for that matter! |
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Somebody correct me when hugs become dangerous. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] http://www.all4humor.com/images/files/Tiger%20Hug.jpg [/ QUOTE ] I strongly support banning the hugging of tigers on school property! |
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Just to make things clear, I see nothing wrong with holding hands, but I have spend many years in different cultures, neither do I see anything wrong with hugging, same or different sexes, and finally I see nothing wrong with homosexuality or heterosexuality, for that matter! [/ QUOTE ] What about beastiality? Seems your position is against those who practice beastiality! |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] [x] non sequitur [x] attack on bush [ ] irritating smiley [ ] lol america sucks [ ] you're all racist hicks! [/ QUOTE ] I am so saving that checklist. |
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Yet another example of why a public school monopoly is a bad system. With school choice of some kind, parents who want their children banned from hugging would be free to enroll in this school.
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"administrators said the ban was enacted because while most touching may be welcome, some touching isn’t."
Why, then, don't they just ban involuntary hugging? |
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"administrators said the ban was enacted because while most touching may be welcome, some touching isn’t." Why, then, don't they just ban involuntary hugging? [/ QUOTE ] Lol, isn't that molestation? |
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"administrators said the ban was enacted because while most touching may be welcome, some touching isn’t." Why, then, don't they just ban involuntary hugging? [/ QUOTE ] A very sensible question. Our society has got to the point where banning an *actual* harm is considered "not enough". We must outlaw the behaviours that *could* lead to the harm. We are plagued with myriad laws designed to prevent some higher level problem by banning a correlated innocuous behaviour. Open container laws, cartoon kiddie porn, drug prohibition, etc are all examples. there are plenty more. A ban on hugs because someone might get hugged against their will is just natural in light of our society's current approach to law and its role in a citizen's life. note: this "hug ban" is all just part of the new "no fun century" we are living in, which i posted about a while ago. last note for Andy: I'm sure that involuntary hugs were *already* against the rules. But that's not enough. It's like adding more gun control laws because someone broke an existing one. natedogg |
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A very sensible question. Our society has got to the point where banning an *actual* harm is considered "not enough". We must outlaw the behaviours that *could* lead to the harm. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm, sounds very familiar... |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] [x] non sequitur [x] attack on bush [ ] irritating smiley [ ] lol america sucks [ ] you're all racist hicks! [/ QUOTE ] I am so saving that checklist. [/ QUOTE ] Is there anything else that should be added to it? We could also make one for you pvn: [ ] Contains Hotdog analogy |
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I imagine these things work in kind of a pendulum fashion: too much leeway, followed by too much Big Brother. When I was in high school, the policy was officially "Hand in hand, or hands off." Made sense, I think. In many of the classrooms, the teacher spoke in the middle of the room, with the desks on either side facing each other. Those were the days of miniskirts, so we delinquents perfected the delicate operation of dropping our pencils in a strategic area of the floor to get maximum viewage up the girls' skirts. One male teacher would put the waste basket on top of a closet every day and would ask a girl in a short skirt to reach up to get it. Can you imagine what would happen to him today? So surely things were tolerated that shouldn't have been, just as surely as some of the things you describe as "no fun" are ridiculous.
Here are the lyrics of the song we would sing in assembly every Tuesday: "Bless this house, O Lord we pray, Make it safe by night and day . . . Bless these walls so firm and stout, Keeping want and trouble out . . . Bless the roof and chimneys tall, Let thy peace lie overall . . . Bless this door that it may prove, Ever open, To joy and love . . . Bless these windows shining bright, Letting in God's Heavenly light, Bless the hearth, the painting there, With smoke ascending like a prayer! Bless the folk who dwell within, Keep them pure and free from sin . . . Bless us all that we may be, Fit O Lord to dwell with thee . . . Bless us all that one day we may dwell, O Lord! With Thee!" This was a public school in New York City. I think, as a society, we could probably benefit more from a mandatory hugging policy than a ban. |
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? |
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Funny. Hugging was banned in my Middle school. As was hand holding and kissing. FWIW, the issue has little to do with area and everything to do with an idiotic administrator.
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I just hope that this girl is added to the Sexual Offenders Registry. She's an obvious canddidate to be an offender once she becomes an adult.
Since we won't be able to ship her off to jail (still a minor), at least we can protect the future generations of children from her. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? [/ QUOTE ] Am I one of the few Americans that doesn't see anything wrong with Bush holding the hand of the Arab dude? Its a sign of respect and friendship in their culture. I'm proud that crazy Christian Bush was able to get over his homophobia and hold the guys hand. Americans are so dumb. |
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FFS don't we have better things to worry about? Millions and millions of human beings world wide are starving or sick or killing each other (amongst other real problems, like a 90+ % incumbent re-election rate in this country) and some people are sitting around having a debate on whether we should ban hugs in school. [/ QUOTE ] I think you need a hug. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? [/ QUOTE ] Am I one of the few Americans that doesn't see anything wrong with Bush holding the hand of the Arab dude? Its a sign of respect and friendship in their culture. I'm proud that crazy Christian Bush was able to get over his homophobia and hold the guys hand. Americans are so dumb. [/ QUOTE ] No, that's not the point. I agree with the sentiment behind what was said, it just doesn't belong in every fricking conversation that he can drop it into. This is a thread about Hug Bans in schools, not about George Fing Bush. |
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MidGe is Broken Glass Can: The Bush/America Hater Edition™.
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I don't see how banning of hugs should be an important issue. What is more interesting to me is that, if you believe the article linked in the OP, hugging is becoming more and more prevalent between young students. If this is true, what are the forces at work which are causing this trend?
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I don't see how banning of hugs should be an important issue. What is more interesting to me is that, if you believe the article linked in the OP, hugging is becoming more and more prevalent between young students. If this is true, what are the forces at work which are causing this trend? [/ QUOTE ] Kids are growing up to be better people? |
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