$22 he shoved on me :(
 

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Hero (t1810)
BB (t1190)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls t10, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t60</font>, Hero calls t40.

Flop: (t120) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t260</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1130</font>, Hero?
early in match he has good ss stats but has been limping otb and calling my button raises frequently im really clueless as to what to do here.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

You're getting 1510 : 870 on the call and so you need to win 870/(870+1510) or ~ 36.55% .

Play around with pokerstove and assign him some ranges and it should be clear that you should call .

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

what about the initial raise is that standard?

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

I don't like limp-calling otb . Just raise pre-flop with 10-9 and you're good to go .

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

This is a clear fold, even if you are faced with overs+ flush draw, you are slaughtered.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

easy call

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

Meh, I'd probably rather peel one off than raise but idk.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

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You're getting 1510 : 870 on the call and so you need to win 870/(870+1510) or ~ 36.55% .

Play around with pokerstove and assign him some ranges and it should be clear that you should call .

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Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

i think this was me? i had AdAx, though i was pretty sure i raised to t80 pf. and its def a flat on the flop IMO

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

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i think this was me? i had AdAx, though i was pretty sure i raised to t80 pf. and its def a flat on the flop IMO

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no because i called and he had JdTd and i spike teh 9

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

call

RAISE PREFLOP

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

Maybe its weak, but i dont like raising this flop in position.
He most likely a bad player, and i dont want to play smth like 55-45 after he pushes his draw. Just call and re-evaluate the turn.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

I raise pre-flop to 60 like jay said.

With the flop i prefer a call rather than a raise, however, if i do raise then i would know whether or not i am calling a re-raise, in this instance i would call a push as after making the 3 bet you are getting correct odds against his range.

i dont want to sound patronising but it seems like you just thought oh sweet i have a combo draw im gonna semi-bluff raise here, without thinking ok if i raise what am i going to do if he flat calls, or shoves etc. I know too well that its tough to always think ahead as things happen so fast in HUSNG's but i try to always think will i call a shove when i make a 3 bet, and if not i sometimes change my mind about that 3 bet.

With regards to the flop play i like a call better as it keeps the pot smaller, if he has no part of that flop he'll slow down and you can either take it from him or go to showdown with your pair of nines. Also you could be drawing to a split pot. I find these Flop textures misleading as they look great, pair and straight draw etc, but i find they get me spewing chips too often. Hope that helps a bit, sorry if it sounds condescending.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

The problem with your flop raise is that you have a made hand already. By raising, you very likely will fold out his worse made hands and all hands that missed the flop, but he will call or raise his better hands, sth you obviously don't want.
He may 3bet hands with less equity (draws) too, but your equity vs. his 3betting range is much much lower than vs his calling range.
One reason to play a draw aggressive is the fold equity you gain. Here, you don't gain any FE, because he doesn't fold worse hands. My std line here is call flop, call turn ui, fold river ui (as long as I don't have any special read that he is e.g. always bluffing a busted draw).

The way the hand played out call.

Re: $22 he shoved on me :(
 

don't raise the flop if you aren't snapping a shove