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Split Suit 11-07-2007 03:38 AM

100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
50min movie 9tabling 100FR on FTP

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZFGVRQE0

ran 17/9/5 durrin this. couple of odd spots came about...wud like thoughts on the AJ from the SB on J62. also the AA against the shortstack on the TT8 board (call here? or push?). also TT on A7722 board. and as usual...if u wanna bash my PF-style...thats cool too =)



(heres the Codec if u dont have it already. DL the TSCC or w/e one

http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp )

chip-star 11-07-2007 03:41 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
Works now, thx

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-07-2007 04:32 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
checkin it out ty for the effort.

The Eureka Kid 11-07-2007 06:37 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
Hey mate, your last video was solid, this one so far is way better. I'll put your pre-flop play aside because I posted about that last time, although it made that TT hand tough. I would have called on the river, you played it so meekly I reckon you induce him to bluff enough to make a call profitable.

I take an exact same line with that AJ hand in the SB when there were a tonne of limpers. In the end it was an easy fold, but you did the right think by not betting out originally, you gain so much more information letting it go around one time.

I would have shoved the AA on the TT8 board, there are too many scare cards on the turn that will kill your action.

vizer02 11-07-2007 07:51 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
I guess I'll flame away about the 10's. I don't like the way you played 10,10 on the A,7,7,2,2 board. Sure, you might be ahead on the flop but unfortunately you're OOP and any face card on the turn is bad and most competent players would fire a second barrel with any two cards with A,7,7,2 on the board and an UTG limper calling their flop c-bet just because "WTF are you calling with" should be going through their head. A flop checkraise also looks fishy because you can't hardly represent a hand that would play that way except like 6,7s or 7,8s. For that reason I like a fold on the flop way better if you're going to be basically set mining with 10,10. Raising preflop and c-betting makes this so much easier to play OOP and I would think way more +ev than limp calling preflop, and check calling on an ace high flop. Just my .02 though.

Also, dobie does that "mini-raising crap" all the time, and loves to bet $1 into $9 pots and stuff so good luck figuring him out.

Good video, solid play throughout, and thanks for posting. Love the Tuff_fish like commentary, and the "o hi I ....." beginning of your notes lol.

the_main 11-07-2007 07:57 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
How's the quality? I've never seen anything greater than 4tables recorded well...

The Eureka Kid 11-07-2007 08:34 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
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How's the quality? I've never seen anything greater than 4tables recorded well...

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Quality is pretty good actually, everything is pretty clear, stats are a tad blurry. He does play with some overlap, but in all, for nine tables, solid compilation.

the_main 11-07-2007 10:17 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
Yeah, quality was good.

I watched some of it as I did my laundry. It was good, but there wern't a tonne of tough spots. Oh and you ran pretty hot from what I saw. FWIW, I think the TT hand was a good fold near the start of the vid.

My favourite part is hearing you curse nonestop and then randomly throwing in words like 'loosey goosey' and 'ick ick ick!'. Oh and hearing you say "he's pretty pink" made me lol for some reason.

SimaoMacaco 11-07-2007 12:12 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
Nice.. wp.. i love sessions when poker seems easy.. good cards, solid play, ziggy at the right time.. vnh

Now, i would like to see a video of a horror session, the type when every light 3bet gets called and donked.. cbets get 3bet.. turns get pushed.. all when holding good but not great hands.. or perhaps i am just bitter.. i think i am bitter actually. so very nice.

I think some of your folds were good although not hugely tough, AJ, AQ, TT spring to mind as deffo folds for me. The AJ was ntoable as it became easy as you played it well. The light 4bet was muito bom.

I feel a total spewtard having seen this video.. i woulda tried to rep a set at least, ran a 2 barrel bluff with AK and got called down at least twice.. and repped AA, KK at least 10 times.

Split Suit 11-07-2007 02:57 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
tell u the truth...i tend to run pretty well i record (i do have a few horror sesh's from when i played 6max...but i keep those for myself =) )

maybe ill try recording more till i get one of those hell-ish seshs so u can all hear me curse till im blue in the face

Miraculix 11-07-2007 05:13 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
Thanks for another great video. Just keep ém coming [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]!!!
This is the way I would like to play, but I´m not nearly as aggressive as you, when it comes to stealing and 3-betting. Hopefully I´ll learn..... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img].

// M

Split Suit 11-07-2007 05:15 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
tell u the truth...i tend to ramp up my aggro a lil when im recording.

also...was i 3bettin too often?

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-07-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
are you playing on your own account? never seen you before in the 100nl

vizer02 11-07-2007 06:07 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
I think your 3-bet percentage was right on.

Split Suit 11-07-2007 06:07 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
yea. ive only put like 10K hands in 100nl. who are u? (PM if u need) i datamine a butt-load...but havnt played a lot of it myself

22pajo 11-07-2007 07:27 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
Hey man, thanks for posting the video. Its the first video i've ever watched.
Very informative to watch a thinking player 9 table and listen to his thought processes being articulated at the same time.

I'm starting out learning NL. I plan on playing 25NL while i grind out 10K or so hands while studying some NL theory at the same time.
I had originally decided that playing 1 table would suffice.
However, playing 1 table seems like such a grind whereas if i play 2, 3 or maybe 4 i would get to see more hands and possibly speed up the learning process.

Would you say its advisable to play just 1 table when starting out?
Did you start playing 1 table and add tables as your game improved?

Split Suit 11-07-2007 09:16 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
i started playin 2-3 on bodoggy back in the day. i wud suggest 2tables to start out. one just doesnt get u enuff hands in for ur time. read as much 2p2 as possible, and obvi as many books as possible (just make sure u dont swallow everything u read...actually think about it and argue it)

checkmate36 11-07-2007 09:50 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

Landlord79 11-08-2007 12:03 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
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i started playin 2-3 on bodoggy back in the day. i wud suggest 2tables to start out. one just doesnt get u enuff hands in for ur time. read as much 2p2 as possible, and obvi as many books as possible (just make sure u dont swallow everything u read...actually think about it and argue it)

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I didn't know that you started out on the Dog.

Good vid,
JJ laydown was good with the short-stack raising on your immediate right.
QQ calling the 4 bet was spewy
Looks like you had a good mix of calls and raises with your MPP's OOP.

Can you pm me a link of the HUD thread that you had going last week, I've got mine looking good and want to get some further info to clean it up some more.

Split Suit 11-08-2007 12:42 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
http://www.4shared.com/file/28652836.../Complex2.html

i think that shud do the trick (let the page load for a few...then a "download file" strip will come up in the middle of the page. just DL it, and import it into PAHUD)

its also colored to my specs...so urll have to mess with that, or check out the PAHUD thread to see what everything means

Split Suit 11-08-2007 12:43 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
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QQ calling the 4 bet was spewy
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where did i call a 4b with QQ?

vaughn345 11-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
split suit would you have called with 57s in position on bottom right table at about 14 minutes if the 3x raiser had a full stack? or would that be dependent on villain stats (couldn't read his in video)?

Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:28 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
[ QUOTE ]
split suit would you have called with 57s in position on bottom right table at about 14 minutes if the 3x raiser had a full stack? or would that be dependent on villain stats (couldn't read his in video)?

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im more inclined to call if hes full stack, esp if hes a nitpants. (in the vid, he was shorter, and hyper loose. with another hyper loose guy calling right behind him)

twilitekid 11-08-2007 01:29 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
people just do not use the f word enough in these videos, so yea i'm really enjoying this one so far.

vaughn345 11-08-2007 01:40 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
split suit would you have called with 57s in position on bottom right table at about 14 minutes if the 3x raiser had a full stack? or would that be dependent on villain stats (couldn't read his in video)?

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im more inclined to call if hes full stack, esp if hes a nitpants. (in the vid, he was shorter, and hyper loose. with another hyper loose guy calling right behind him)

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the idea being you'd rather flop big against an overpair than trash.....or.... with a nit you could take it down on the flop with air?

Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:52 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
against a nit ur 1.) IP. 2.) probably against a big PP, so the range is nice and easy. and 3.) if he checks, u can bang away a lot of the time.

also, im an addict for draw hands =)

vaughn345 11-08-2007 01:59 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
ok, got it. thnx

twilitekid 11-08-2007 02:12 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
i had never considered pronouncing "ut-guh" lol.

SimaoMacaco 11-08-2007 05:44 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
[ QUOTE ]
people just do not use the f word enough in these videos, so yea i'm really enjoying this one so far.

[/ QUOTE ]

5******

ninjadanger 11-08-2007 07:44 AM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
solid video man. played/ran well, always nice.

MrBump 11-08-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
"Im gonna ISO here" [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Many thanks for making this video, it was quite an eye-opener [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Am I the only one who finds it hard following the action when watching a video of someone else multi-tabling ? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] When you're giving the commentary of what you're gonna do with your hand on one of the tables, by the time I've found the right table, you've moved on to the next one ! Am I just too slow ? I only 3-table myself atm. Any more than that, and I'm struggling.

Thoughts ?

LifeTilt 11-08-2007 01:29 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
I 16 table, so it is pretty easy to follow, and you [normally] remember exactly what hand you had and the position you were in on all 16.

However, you do raise hands and then see no action, so you come back and are wonder, "I had QQ somewhere, WTF happened..."

Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:44 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
yea...when u play more tables, following action just gets easier. tho, because i was talking a lil more in this vid than other ones, and rly focusing on thought-speak...i lost my concentration (example: forgot i raised the 87 the hand after 45ss, and didnt kno if i had raised 66 or called in the CO). didnt rly effect much...just how it goes

LifeTilt 11-08-2007 01:50 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
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(example: forgot i raised the 87 the hand after 45ss, and didnt kno if i had raised 66 or called in the CO). didnt rly effect much...just how it goes

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This has been happening far too much to me lately and I think I have made some bad plays because of it. If I forget whether I was the aggressor or if I cold-called, I just donk in EP and usually take down a ~10bb pot.

Split Suit 11-08-2007 01:51 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
(example: forgot i raised the 87 the hand after 45ss, and didnt kno if i had raised 66 or called in the CO). didnt rly effect much...just how it goes

[/ QUOTE ]

This has been happening far too much to me lately and I think I have made some bad plays because of it. If I forget whether I was the aggressor or if I cold-called, I just donk in EP and usually take down a ~10bb pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

lucky for me its a rare occurance (and i did have an excuse while recording =) ). but i only 12 table...tho im moving up to 16 within the next 2 weeks. and remembering who was pf aggressor...is hyper-important

twilitekid 11-08-2007 02:22 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
i used to play on some site, i don't remember which, where you could click on a players name and review their actions during the hand. i wouldn't mind this feature coming to ftp.

Split Suit 11-08-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
ehh...i think its better that FTP doesnt have that feature. i kno more ppl forget more than i do (and i forget in small situation spots...so it doenst effect me too much). ppl making mistakes sounds good to me =)

Landlord79 11-08-2007 03:10 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

QQ calling the 4 bet was spewy
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where did i call a 4b with QQ?

[/ QUOTE ]

When the UTG loose player had AA.

Split Suit 11-08-2007 03:15 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (*the real one*)
 
the UTG shortie? (ur being sarcastic right? im never folding QQ in that spot (2.5:1 against an idiot who's range is much wider than KK+))

Krands85 11-08-2007 05:06 PM

Re: 100NL - 9tabling Vid2 (ignore last thread plz)
 
[ QUOTE ]

This is the way I would like to play, but I´m not nearly as aggressive as you, when it comes to stealing and 3-betting. Hopefully I´ll learn..... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img].
// M

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Ditto [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Thanks a lot for this video, it was a great watch; some interesting spots with quality commentary and it really showed the power of aggression.

It was particularly relevant for me, because its the exact game I play - 100FR at FT (I recognised plenty of the players), just with more tables. I currently play 4, but increasing the number I play on, along with heightening my aggression is something I want to add to my game.

Is the link for your first video floating around somewhere? Thanks again [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]


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