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Tuco 11-07-2007 03:38 AM

WSOP winner arrested (not Jerry Yang, jesus wouldn\'t let that happen)
 
Bet the cops cuffed the old guy too.

"Sarge, we've got a huge poker game in progess!"

"Oh man, call the SWAT team"

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D8SOFM500.htm

Wow does Tennessee suck.

Tuco.

imabigdeal 11-07-2007 03:54 AM

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lol @ taking cards and chips. god i hate cops

d/r/t 11-07-2007 03:55 AM

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"Sarge, we want A/C in our cruisers!"

"Ok, let's hijack this old man."

"We can use his chip set for our game at the lodge!"


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FYP

PugsMcGee 11-07-2007 03:57 AM

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lol @ arresting an 82 year old for gambling. i [censored] hate cops.

Arnold_O 11-07-2007 04:20 AM

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that's ridiculous

dibbs 11-07-2007 04:23 AM

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McKinney was one of two people charged with aggravated gambling

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The only kind of gambling I know of [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

PiquetteAces 11-07-2007 04:24 AM

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"Police also said McKinney was charged with possession of Schedule III narcotics after pills were found in his pocket."

I played several hours with him at the RIO in 50-100 STUD HI-LOW' cash game during the WSOP 2006 & 2007. I got the feeling that is not a narcotic'user.

I dono much about "pills", but i don't think he would have reach 82 y o if he was taking illegal'stuff.

- jpp

Micro Donk 11-07-2007 04:27 AM

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here in TN any kind of gambling (including home games like that) is illegal. except the lottery.

anuj 11-07-2007 04:46 AM

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here in TN any kind of gambling (including home games like that) is illegal. except the lottery.

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Even without a rake????

Micro Donk 11-07-2007 04:50 AM

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im pretty sure thats the case, but i could be proven wrong.

i remember my dad wanted to start up a multi tbl poker room a few years ago with no rake, but didnt because of the trouble he wuold have to go thru to not have cops find out

tunica is a VERY popular destination around here, needless to say

apefish 11-07-2007 04:54 AM

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If you can't trust the authorities to police your morals who can you trust?

Mitch Evans 11-07-2007 04:57 AM

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"Police also said McKinney was charged with possession of Schedule III narcotics after pills were found in his pocket."

I played several hours with him at the RIO in 50-100 STUD HI-LOW' cash game during the WSOP 2006 & 2007. I got the feeling that is not a narcotic'user.

I dono much about "pills", but i don't think he would have reach 82 y o if he was taking illegal'stuff.

- jpp

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Heh, it's Schedule III, so it's probably Tylenol 3.

EWS87 11-07-2007 05:15 AM

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am i the only one who thought and was hoping it was gonna be jerry yang before opening thread

Sykes 11-07-2007 05:20 AM

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am i the only one who thought and was hoping it was gonna be jerry yang before opening thread

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no.

I really hate America.

Seriously, the hypocrisy of our nation is outstanding. Glorify a game that involves degenerates on national TV, but bust their house in, take their [censored] if they are doing it at home. Amazing.

towery 11-07-2007 05:28 AM

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"Police also said McKinney was charged with possession of Schedule III narcotics after pills were found in his pocket."

I played several hours with him at the RIO in 50-100 STUD HI-LOW' cash game during the WSOP 2006 & 2007. I got the feeling that is not a narcotic'user.

I dono much about "pills", but i don't think he would have reach 82 y o if he was taking illegal'stuff.

- jpp

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Heh, it's Schedule III, so it's probably Tylenol 3.

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That, or some form of vicodin/hydrocodone

EWS87 11-07-2007 05:30 AM

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am i the only one who thought and was hoping it was gonna be jerry yang before opening thread

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no.

I really hate America.

Seriously, the hypocrisy of our nation is outstanding. Glorify a game that involves degenerates on national TV, but bust their house in, take their [censored] if they are doing it at home. Amazing.

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what does my post have to do what you wrote...i agree with what you said but dont get the connection as to why my post was quoted

btmagnetw 11-07-2007 05:32 AM

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no, you were not the only one who thought it was jerry yang...

DontTapTheGlass 11-07-2007 06:09 AM

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am i the only one who thought and was hoping it was gonna be jerry yang before opening thread

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no.

I really hate America.

Seriously, the hypocrisy of our nation is outstanding. Glorify a game that involves degenerates on national TV, but bust their house in, take their [censored] if they are doing it at home. Amazing.

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So true. And gambling is not allowed, but our state governments are allowed to hold lotteries for their own profit...insane.

sapol 11-07-2007 06:57 AM

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when I clicked I was hoping to see phil helmuth in cuffs....big disappointment

Wilpro 11-07-2007 07:20 AM

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America, land of the free...

KrazyKarl 11-07-2007 09:16 AM

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Thats the only reason poker rooms are allowed in NSW in pubs and clubs. People come to play poker, and in their down time they play the poker machines. Poker machines means money for the government!

STA654 11-07-2007 09:17 AM

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Crime doesn't pay.

Garry Breenstein 11-07-2007 10:36 AM

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Sigh...
America and its love/hate relation with gambling.
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Kaka 11-07-2007 11:25 AM

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here in TN any kind of gambling (including home games like that) is illegal. except the lottery.

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Even without a rake????

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yep. even without a rake. for the really curious, here are a couple attorney general opinions poo-poo-ing non-rake games in Tennessee and even saying Indian casinos are not viable in Tennessee:

1. receiving anything more than the bet placed in the middle (rake or no rake) is illegal, plus some discussion on skill versus chance: http://www.attorneygeneral.state.tn....5/OP/OP159.pdf

2. an attempt to set up a deposit/lease structure are shot down: http://www.attorneygeneral.state.tn....06/OP/OP46.pdf

3. indian casinos not viable (does not discuss jurisdictional or pre-emption issues): http://www.attorneygeneral.state.tn....06/OP/OP80.pdf

only the state-run lottery and once-a-year fund-raising raffles for churches and schools are kosher under the TN constitution (the CONSTITUTION! good luck lobbying a change to that). sadly, home games (even without a rake) are illegal in TN. That said, the day they come after low-stakes home games is the day all hell breaks loose.

Selective enforcement is an issue, though, meaning if the police have a particular interest in someone at the game, they can bust the small-time game under the anti-gambling law as a pretext to getting their hands on somebody for other (presumably bigger) purposes.

Ultra Violet 11-07-2007 11:51 AM

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I was thinking that too. But, there is an article about the Yahoo! founder in the "more from Businessweek" links on the right titled "Jerry Yang in the Hot Seat."

What an amusing coinky-dink!

Dunkman 11-07-2007 12:01 PM

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"Police also said McKinney was charged with possession of Schedule III narcotics after pills were found in his pocket."

I played several hours with him at the RIO in 50-100 STUD HI-LOW' cash game during the WSOP 2006 & 2007. I got the feeling that is not a narcotic'user.

I dono much about "pills", but i don't think he would have reach 82 y o if he was taking illegal'stuff.

- jpp

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Heh, it's Schedule III, so it's probably Tylenol 3.

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That, or some form of vicodin/hydrocodone

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That's totally ridiculous, I mean surely he had a prescription...how hard can it be to get a script for mild pain killers at 82 years old?

lsaw2 11-07-2007 12:30 PM

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Stupid country! lol

cking 11-07-2007 02:41 PM

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damn when i saw tennessee i was sure it was gonna be moneymaker...

Bakes 11-07-2007 03:11 PM

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i need to get the [censored] out of the united states

RichGangi 11-07-2007 03:18 PM

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Police also said McKinney was charged with possession of Schedule III narcotics after pills were found in his pocket.

LOLZ. The guys 82 yo for f*&%$ sake!!! Well done, TPD. Way to get those big time criminals.

Nairb 11-07-2007 05:39 PM

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It may be illegal here in TN but this is the first enforcement I have ever heard of actually happening. Hell there is a raked game in a town near where I live that advertises with fliers in convenience stores etc... I have played there WITH uniformed cops in some of their tourneys so yes it is selective enforcement. I would not be surprised if someone close to this game had enemies with a little power. This is just not the sort of thing that ever happens around here.

BowToYourSensei 11-07-2007 05:45 PM

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All those arrested were charged with gambling.

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how can you take this line seriously?

also, who the [censored] would report this kinda [censored]? someone calls the cops and tells them a poker game's going on? and a RAID ensues?!

Kaka 11-07-2007 06:08 PM

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Yeah enforcement is rare. There was a local (Nashville) politician that got caught up in a bust last year. Ludye Wallace was a Metro councilman who seems to attract that kind of attention. Looks like he cut a deal, though.

http://www.nashvillepost.com/news?id=25673

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs....WS03/710110410

POKEROMGLOL 11-07-2007 06:08 PM

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These cops are heroes and true defenders of our nation.

- 72% of problem gamblers reported an episode of depression.
- 52% report alcohol abuse.
- 50% of problem gamblers abuse their children.
- In areas that allow casino gambling judges are reporting that 1/3 of the divorce cases they see involve gambling as a reason the marriage is dissolving. In these same areas spousal abuse has risen over 300%.
- After Mississippi legalized casino gambling pawn shops became the fastest growing business in the state. People are pawning their possessions in order to gamble.
- Problem gamblers are 150 times more likely to attempt suicide.
- Secular treatment of problem gamblers has only an 8% success rate. This is one of the lowest rates of any addiction. The reason the success rate for treating a gambling problem is so difficult is because it is not a disease - it is a moral choice

Consider these facts:
1. Each day, 88 million dollars are spent on lotteries alone, more money than is spent on food.
2. Ten million Americans have a gambling addiction.
3. When legalized gambling enters a new area, there is a 100%-500% rise of compulsive gamblers. At least 2/3 of compulsive gamblers turn to crime to finance their addiction.
4. Gambling causes a wide range of social problems such as increases in divorces, child protection cases, crime rates, domestic violence and child abuse. For every $1.00 the state receives from gambling revenue, it costs that state at least $3.00 in increased services such as criminal-justice, and welfare.

Micro Donk 11-07-2007 06:16 PM

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damn when i saw tennessee i was sure it was gonna be moneymaker...

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randomly off topic:

im pretty sure moneymaker doesnt live in TN anymore...i think florida?

but i went to the wiki for confirmation, and i found this

Moneymaker can be heard Thursdays on Playboy Radio's Morning Show on Sirius Satellite Radio.[citation needed]

lol

Micro Donk 11-07-2007 06:26 PM

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just found an article in our local newspaper about it

i like how they tried to make mckinney look bad, saying his hobbies included "moonshine, cigars, and young women"

also said he was arrested for aggravated gambling promotion

mr.bum 11-07-2007 06:41 PM

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These cops are heroes and true defenders of our nation.


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Defending our nation from its self does not= heroism...it = fascism.

POKEROMGLOL 11-07-2007 07:02 PM

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Defending our nation from its self does not= heroism...it = fascism.

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Step 1:

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/

Nat S. Ivey 11-07-2007 07:16 PM

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Defending our nation from its self does not= heroism...it = fascism.

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Step 1:

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/

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Step 2

Nairb 11-07-2007 07:16 PM

Re: WSOP winner arrested (not Jerry Yang, jesus wouldn\'t let that happ
 
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These cops are heroes and true defenders of our nation.

- 72% of problem gamblers reported an episode of depression.
- 52% report alcohol abuse.
- 50% of problem gamblers abuse their children.
- In areas that allow casino gambling judges are reporting that 1/3 of the divorce cases they see involve gambling as a reason the marriage is dissolving. In these same areas spousal abuse has risen over 300%.
- After Mississippi legalized casino gambling pawn shops became the fastest growing business in the state. People are pawning their possessions in order to gamble.
- Problem gamblers are 150 times more likely to attempt suicide.
- Secular treatment of problem gamblers has only an 8% success rate. This is one of the lowest rates of any addiction. The reason the success rate for treating a gambling problem is so difficult is because it is not a disease - it is a moral choice

Consider these facts:
1. Each day, 88 million dollars are spent on lotteries alone, more money than is spent on food.
2. Ten million Americans have a gambling addiction.
3. When legalized gambling enters a new area, there is a 100%-500% rise of compulsive gamblers. At least 2/3 of compulsive gamblers turn to crime to finance their addiction.
4. Gambling causes a wide range of social problems such as increases in divorces, child protection cases, crime rates, domestic violence and child abuse. For every $1.00 the state receives from gambling revenue, it costs that state at least $3.00 in increased services such as criminal-justice, and welfare.

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100% CHANCE OF A BAN FROM THE MODS. This type of whimsical nonsense is what has kept the religious right powerful enough to influence things like the Senate to pass unconstitutional bills taking away my freedom in the middle of the night. So I can go spend my entire paycheck on lottery tickets and because it is hidden under the blanket of helping education yet firing up a $12 poker tournament from the privacy of my own home, or even having a friendly game with family and friends is seemingly illegal?

I for one do not need the esteemed members of law enforcement to tell me how I can spend a Saturday night with the money I earned, and paid the taxes that pay their salary with. I bet there is an operating meth lab within 5 miles of where this "aggravated gambling" offense occurred. But they got the real criminrl, right?

And if you thing poker needs to be looped into the same category with gambling such as craps, blackjack, and roulette you probably see no difference in possession of marijuana and manufacturing methamphetimine.

I hope this is a level but if not it is one of the most ignorant posts I have ever read on 2+2 and I feel dumber having read it.


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