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Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LONG*
Long and quite possibly boring. Don't say you weren't warned.
Met up with 3 friends in Vegas for our yearly get together last week, and here are some of the highlights. Got in at 3:00pm on Thursday, and headed to the Bellagio with one of my friend's who got in at the same time. Beat: They had wanted $600 a night for the room, so I used about a trillion Amex points to pay instead. I'm not a huge fan of the Bellagio, considering I am only 33, and it seems to attract a good portion of wealthy, Viagra-popping, 50+ year old men with mistresses in tow. The room was just like every other Bellagio room I've been in, which is to say, nothing to write home about. Unfortunately, my friends like it because of the "location," so I was overruled. "What do you mean you like it's 'location'? You mean, you like that that it's in Vegas?" Whatever. Check in and drop the bags off, and my friend asks me if I want to gamb00l... I say sure, and we head down to the 3 Card Poker (aka Ass-Raping) table. I'm not a table games guy, but my friends aren't really poker players - so I allocated some money for table games to be social, because otherwise, I'd likely never see them. I slide the dealer my player's club card, and proceed to drop about $500 in about 20 minutes. "Sorry for your luck sir." Yay for 3 card! I tell my friend that I "[censored] hate table games", and that I am going to play some poker instead. He moves on to play some blackjack, and I get an immediate seat at the must move table. Bellgio 5/10 In the span of my first 10 hands, I pick up AK/QQ and AA. The AK hand was totally straightforward and nothing worth noting. I played the QQ hand against a ~30 year old super-aggro woman who had an Army green Castro hat on, with her hair pulled back into two stubby pigtails. She claimed to have "flown in all the way from Breckinridge, Colorado!" and she fancied herself a bit of a player. She seemed really keyed up, and was trying her best to project a LAGtard image. Lot's of chatter, lots of announcements when she was raising, and "OK EVERYONE! I'M STRADDLING!" you know the drill.... Throughout the game, I notice she seems to be either working with, or just "with" the big/tall guy who was previously sitting to her left, but changed seats and is now sitting on my left. He was short-stacked, and I saw him make a few questionable plays. Regardless, I wasn't too concerned. Folded around to her in LP, and Castro raises to $40. I find Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the CO and pop it to $120, folded back to her and she calls. I am watching her as the flop comes out, and she's staring directly at me. Without breaking eye contact, she checks. I consider raising without looking at the board, but decide that's probably a bad idea, and I look down, happy to see the 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flop. I bet $150 and she folds. <font color="red">Not particularly-interesting hand:</font> Game is proving itself to be very limpy. 4 limptards to me on button, I find J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and flat call, like a weak-passive, set-mining douche. Seemed to make sense at the time, but in retrospect, not ideal. SB limps, BB shoves $340. I get the distinct sense he's just trying to pick up the limps, but I haven't been at the table very long and haven't seen him play any hands. Folded around to me and I call. SB folds. BB says "Well, I'm [censored]." and tables AQ. Flop is J44 and my hand is good. <font color="red">Semi-interesting hand:</font> Middle-aged woman who has been folding a lot raises in MP to $40 with $800 behind, it folds around, and I call on the button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] SB and BB fold and we're heads up. Flop comes 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Woman bets $50. I call. Turn is 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Woman is staring at the board, thinks for a few seconds, and bets $50. I get the sense she doesn't know exactly why she's betting, so I call, planning to take a stab on the river if it makes sense. River is 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Woman continues staring blankly at the board, doesn't check her hole cards, and checks. I quietly bet $150, and she mucks. <font color="red">Boring AA hand:</font> 4 limpers to me, and I decide to pop it to $120(!?) in an attempt to make it look like I was trying to punish the limpers and avoid seeing a flop. Since I had been pretty active since sitting down, I was hoping someone would think I was out of line- but of course everyone folds. Probably not awful awful, but I'm not totally stoked about it. I get moved to another table, and manage to get seated between two Hispanic guys who have decided to go to war with each other on each hand. They are talking a lot of [censored] to each other, and I end up leaving because I don't like the texture. The must move table was a totally different and much better game. Sam Farha's brother was at the table for a bit. I played with him last year, and he was a maniac then, and seemed to be donking it up this time as well. And if anyone knows him, a local pro named Gary(?) was there again too. Nice guy, thin-build, thinning brown hair, red sweatshirt. I had played with him last year over the course of a few days. Our other friends arrive around 11, and we decide to play some craps. I'm a craps virgin, and proceed to lose around a grand in about 10 minutes. "[censored] craps." Ceaser's MTT Get to bed late, and wake up around 10 on Friday and register for the noon $330 Deepstackament at Ceaser's. Game was totally straightforward. 7 hours in, I end up finding AJ in the BB with ~8x in my stack, and jam over LP raiser who shows JJ. I miss of course, and finish in 16th out of 45 or so. Rigged. Nobu We go the Palms for our 9pm reservation at Nobu. We opt for the "Chef's Choice" for 4 and a 1L bottle of sake. The food was phenomenal, per usual. However, the Australian Kobe was not particularly good, and left all of us a little disappointed. There were a few hot women floating around, but nothing over an 8. Meh. Tab comes and it's almost $900. Server tells us the credit card machine is down, so they have to call the card in by hand- and there is a long line in front of us. Since it was going on a corporate card, we had to sit around for about 20 minutes with our thumbs up our asses, while growing increasingly impatient. Good food, but a bad way to end the experience. Spearmint Rhino (aka FRIGHT NIGHT) We grab a limo outside the Palm and head over to the Rhino. On our way there, friend #1 complains of stomach pain. Friend #2 complains of stomach pain as well. I tell them to "Stop acting like bitches." when all of the sudden, I get wracked with stomach pain too. It was as if there was a knife-wielding midget in my stomach trying to stab his way out. Holy nuts. We roll up to the Rhino and I pay the cover for everyone. "It's on me." I say. Little did I know, it would be the worst play I would make during the entire trip. To say that the "women" were disappointing would be an understatement. I don't think they could have made the place any darker if they tried, even though I wish they could have. Friend #1 and I are immediately assaulted by a woman who basically looks like this: http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9...htnightdc4.jpg She stands between us, grabs both of our pee-pees simultaneously and says "OK gentleman, who wants a dance? Let's go." Shocked by her appearance and aggression, as well as the MMF genital triangle that she had now completed, I muttered a quiet "No thanks." and tried to back away. Sadly, I was up against the wall, and had nowhere to go. She gives me a forceful pinch gets closer and says "Why are you so uptight?" and I think "Uhhh, because I don't like having shemales touch my junk?" but Instead I say "I just got here and really need a drink, sorry." The skank-harpy muttered something about my sexuality, released her grip, and moved on. Thank you Jesus. We continue to press our way to the back of the club, hoping and praying that the talent would improve as we went deeper. Friend #2: "We have to keep going. It can't get any worse, can it?" It did. I don't know exactly WTF was going on, but I guarantee you this: If someone had suddenly flipped the lights on, the place would have cleared faster than a buttered anvil through a baby's grip. There were maybe 2 girls out of the 40 or so that were above a 7. And even that's being generous. We retreated to the corner of the bar, to reevaluate the situation, when I was approached by a young, friendly girl who asked if I wanted a dance. I declined because my friends wanted to bail already, and would have left me behind. She cheerfully said "No problem," and left, parting with a curious "You smell good," and a smile. I almost wanted to give her a few hundred for being cute enough to not scare the living piss out of us. After less than 15 minutes, we decided to make our way to the door, when one of my friends is grabbed. We leave him behind, fearing we couldn't save him. We make it outside, and he appeared a few seconds later saying "Can we please get the [censored] out of here?" I'm telling you, if you take all of the women that you work with, and make them put on lingerie, there is a very good chance they would be better looking. We head back to the Bellagio, and play more craps and try to forget what had just happened. I drop more money. Saturday We all sleep in, and meet up for the Bellagio buffet. The food was good... and we decide to head over to the Wynn to do some shopping, and play some games. Wynn uncapped 5/10NL Friend #3 decides to join me for some 5/10. He's a decent casual player- has never read a book, but he's very intelligent and holds his own. Unfortunately, he has little to no experience with deepstack play. They end up starting a new table for us, and we buy-in for $1000 each. 3 other players sit down- one of whom is the LAGgy girl who "just flew in from Breckinridge, Colorado!" I see her boyfriend/partner/friend is with her, but he's not in the game. She sits down, and we get the cards in the air. <font color="red">Spew(?) hand:</font> Four hands in, young guy with ~$1000 behind pops to $40 from UTG+1, folded to me on button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I call. Flop comes A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] He bets $70. I decide to find out where I am at, and raise to $230. He proceeds to give a speech: "Are you serious? Do you have a set of fives? Man, that would suck. This is one of those hands that's just sick. It's like I'm destined to lose everything this week. God damn. OK, I'm all in...." He then flashes his cards to Castro, sitting on his right. Uhhhhh. "Good speech..." I say, and fold. He mucks, and says "If you had AK you just made one hell of a laydown, but I think you had AJ." Castro chimes in with "If I had his hand, I would have shoved without the speech, and taken all of your chips." He claims later to have had AQ. <font color="red">Friend #3 loses $900</font> My friend pops it to $60 from EP, folded to an elderly skinny Texan in a cowboy hat who calls in CO, everyone else folds. Flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Friend bets $150, and texan turbo shoves $1500. Uh oh. My friend thinks for a few seconds and calls. I say to him "Man, I hope you have AQ, because he sure as [censored] does." My friend tables JJ for a set, Texan tables AQ. Turn and river brick, my friend is busto, and I decide to cash out because my friend doesn't want to rebuy. He asks me after how he is supposed to fold in that spot, and then says at least he's glad he lost to the Texan, and "not the irritating cokehead from Colorado." We meet friend #2 at a $50 blackjack table. His dealer is easily the funniest dealer I've ever met in Vegas, and most certainly deserves a raise. She was black, and was telling the table that "all white people look the same to her" because all we do is "sit down, lose money, and complain." She then asked my friend if his wife picked out his clothes for him, because can't understand why an adult man would voluntarily wear a pink shirt in Las Vegas. Touché. In between all of this patter, she was goading people into betting more, and telling them they needed to grow some balls and stop playing like scared little babies. Dinner at Nine We head over to the Palm for dinner at Nine. We hang out by the bar watching the eye-candy, and eventually get seated next to a table of about 15 smoking-hot girls who were there as part of a bachelorette party. Since we are all married with kids, we decided against sending them a few bottles of champagne, although we did discuss it.:( Moon & Playboy Club We head over to the line for Moon, and decide we don't want to wait in the 3-abreast, 100 foot line. We grab the host and he says he'll let us jump for $75 a person. We pay, and head up top. The crowd is homely, poorly-dressed, and rhythm-less. The only upside was a blonde dancer up on a box that I instantly fell in love with. I considered how I could explain to my daughter that she "Had a new mommy.," and tried to convince myself that my wife would not only understand, but approve. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] We head down to the Playboy Club- watch some old dude playing $1000 a hand Blackjack on absolutely insane run, bitch about the music (Bel Biv Devoe? Nice hand, DJ), then head back upstairs to see if the scene has improved. It hasn't, so we head downstairs and play some 21. I finish up about $400. We head back to the Bellagio, and I proceed to donk off around a grand at Blackjack and craps. Sunday morning - Bellagio 5/10NL My friends have a table at the sports book, but I decide to play poker and try to earn some of my money back. I get a seat right away, and end up donking off ~$300 with an ill-advised river raise bluff. I forget the particulars, but it ends with a 3 flush hitting on the river, Asian girl to my right betting $125, and me raising her to $325 with air. She tanks, stares at me for about a minute, and then quietly raises all-in. I muck, of course. Before she leaves, she asks me what I had. I lie and say "a small flush." and she says "NO WAY! I had 3 of a kind! I can't believe I pushed you off a flush!" I tell her she made a very good bet. She says that "replaying the hand, I just couldn't put you on the flush, and thought you were bluffing." Note to self: you are easy to read. <font color="red">AA vs. KK</font> I find A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG+1, and raise to $50. Folded to LP who raises to $150. Folded back to me. I ask which one of them raised, and he says confidently "I did." I think for a bit... he's acting pretty confident. So I peel 4 $100 bills from my roll and 5 red chips, and stick them in saying "raise." He shoves, and I call with my remaining ~$600. He shows K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I say "Don't worry man- here comes your king." Flop comes: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] He yells "Yes!" and stands up. MP says "Man, you hit the case king. I folded KJ." Awesome. That makes me feel even better. Turn is the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] River is the merciful 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] "Thank you sweet baby raptor christ jesus." <font color="red">Quads over boat</font> Same villain as above. He raises in LP to $50, and I call on the button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Flop comes: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villain bets $100, and I call. Turn is the 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain checks, I check River is the 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villain bets $150. I raise to $450, he folds an 8 face up. Woopsie. Does anyone else bet this differently on the end? <font color="red">JJ vs. same guy</font> Same villain again. Since I've taken quite a bit of his money now, I get the distinct sensation he wants to take some of it back, and decide to play cautiously against him. He raises to $40 in LP, and I call in position with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Flop comes 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain bets $60, I sense something is fishy, and just call. Turn is 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Villain checks, I check behind. River is 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villain bets $150. I call. Villain tables QQ. "Phew." Table starts talking about how I slipped the noose, and wonders how I didn't lose more. I didn't have an answer for them, so I just shrugged. Brandi appears At the risk of even mentioning her and bringing out the trolls... the infamous Brandi Rose sits down at the table with a stack. All of of the guys at the table instantly start checking her out. I was pleasantly surprised to find she is much more attractive in person than the pictures would lead you to believe. She sits her stack down, and immediately leaves to get food or something, leaving the guy two seats to my left asking "Who is that girl? Does anyone know who she is?" I had of course, already emailed Cha59 with the subject "Brandi Hawbaker at my 5/10 table," and said to the guy. "I know who she is." He asks if I know if she is single. I say "I don't know." and he says "Well, I just want to know if I can hit on her." I say "Well, I think you should give it a shot," hoping that I had just lit the fuse on a dramabomb. "How do you know her?" he asks. "I can't really say. It's kind of inappropriate for me to say anything, but word on the street is that David Sklansky is coaching her in tournaments. She was involved in a bit of drama on the net. That's all I can say." The guy wouldn't relent, so I handed him my Blackberry, showed him my outgoing message to Cha, and said "Google that name." He types it into his iPhone, and I watch as his eyes go saucer-wide and he mouths "whoa." His iPhone is passed around the table, as everyone looks at her boobie pics and starts asking me more questions. I refuse to answer anything more. Meta game, baby! <font color="red">TT vs BB</font> A few hands later, I pick up TT on the button. Folded to me, and I raise to $40. BB, the guy who was asking me about Brandi, quietly raises to $250. "Buddy, WTF are you doing? I have a real hand here. Do you have AK you dumb donkey?" He is trying his best not to laugh and I say. "Come on dude. I totally hooked you up with the info on your special lady friend, and now you are treating me like this? Where's the love DAWG?" He starts to laugh, unable to maintain his composure. He says "I'm really embarrassed by this raise. I can't tell you what it is, but I can tell you it was a bad bet." I fold TT face up and say "You owe me. You'd better show." He refuses to show the cards, mucks and claims "AK". I told him "nice hand," and thanked him for having the decency to lie to my face. He laughs. Brandi returns, and the entire table is trying their hardest to pretend they weren't just checking out her pics on the internet. Everyone is eyeballing the other with knowing "LOL!!11one" glances. The guy who asked me about her tries to chat her up a few times, and fails. She seemed to play a straightforward game. At one point she showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] that she raised from MP. She wasn't involved in any big hands while she was at our table. My friends wander out of the sportsbook, and check out my table from the rail. Friend #3 sees Brandi and mouths "Wow." I go over to the rail and talk to him briefly, giving him the Cliff's Notes of the Captain Tom story, and I tell him to Google it. He does, and for the next 10 minutes proceeds to stand at the rail, reading, and explaining everything to my other two friends in a hushed tone. They circle around, check her out from all angles, friend #2 shrugs, and then head back into the book. Brandi asks for a table change, and leaves. I have a flight to catch, and decide it's time to cash out. I finished up +$2600 for a little over 12 hours of poker. I was down a little more than that in table games / entertainment. Overall, a good poker experience, but a fairly lame Vegas trip I can only stand Vegas for about 48 hours before I want to stick a gun in my mouth. It's fine in small doses, but I can't tell you how gross I think it is to see degenerates losing money they can't afford to part with. At 2am on Saturday, I watched in amazement as a couple wheeled their ~10month old, wide-awake baby through a smoke filled casino in a stroller, only to have the the dad stop at the blackjack table. Are you kidding? Do you hate your child? Having been there for almost 4 days, I grabbed my bags, headed to the airport, and thankfully, flew home. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
Yeah, I highly doubt Anne had just flown in from Breckenridge. She's been living at Wynn for months now. Hard to believe she's not busto by now. Good read.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
That's funny I was in Vegas for 5 weeks in October 2006 and that lady was there at the Wynn a few times I was.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LONG*
Nice TR, but it seems to me that going to a place called "Spearmint Rhino" looking for beautiful girls isn't the best idea.
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Nice TR, but it seems to me that going to a place called "Spearmint Rhino" looking for beautiful girls isn't the best idea. [/ QUOTE ] Either you my friend have the highest standards ever or went to the Rhino on the worst night of all time. I have been there plenty and have been surrounded by beautiful women for the most part each time. I have pretty high standards myself. Otherwise great TR. |
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Yeah, I highly doubt Anne had just flown in from Breckenridge. She's been living at Wynn for months now. Hard to believe she's not busto by now. Good read. [/ QUOTE ] She used the "just flew in" line so often that it was clear to me that she hadn't. I guess she gets people to pay her off with her "Look how LAG I am!" show. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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Either you my friend have the highest standards ever or went to the Rhino on the worst night of all time. I have been there plenty and have been surrounded by beautiful women for the most part each time. I have pretty high standards myself. Otherwise great TR. [/ QUOTE ] Buddy, I can't tell you how disappointed we were, especially after all of positive things I had read on the forums. We went to Scores last year, and all agreed that the women were much better-looking, overall. One of the other possibilities- it was really crowded, and most of the hot girls were already with clients, leaving the busted-up scrippas behind to fight for scraps? *shrug* |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
"One of the other possibilities- it was really crowded, and most of the hot girls were already with clients, leaving the busted-up scrippas behind to fight for scraps."
The most likely possibility. Especially if it was a Friday or Saturday, all the degens must've had them for private parties or whatnot. My first night ever in the Rhino I dropped 3 Gs and I was by myself. Never planned on spending that much but met a few smokin hot ones and next thing you know it's 6 in the morning and i'm outta cash. Man what a night. I wouldn't give up yet you might have better luck next time. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] Yeah, I highly doubt Anne had just flown in from Breckenridge. She's been living at Wynn for months now. Hard to believe she's not busto by now. Good read. [/ QUOTE ] She used the "just flew in" line so often that it was clear to me that she hadn't. I guess she gets people to pay her off with her "Look how LAG I am!" show. [/ QUOTE ] She's a character for certain. Playing J3o is well within her opening range. Apparently people still pay her off if she's still playing there. Good for her I guess. *shrugs* |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
o this tr is gold, such pure and unrelenting gold.
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We went to Scores last year, and all agreed that the women were much better-looking, overall. [/ QUOTE ] Was there for a bachelor thing, and was pretty uncomfortable with how aggressive the women were. It was a little embarrassing. But plenty of them were pretty hot. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
i saw her in vegas and in ac and she was hemorrhaging money all the way home. She pays so poorly, noone pays her off, despite the show.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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Was there for a bachelor thing, and was pretty uncomfortable with how aggressive the women were. It was a little embarrassing. But plenty of them were pretty hot. [/ QUOTE ] That's part of the reason we decided to check out the Rhino. Last year, I was practically attacked by one of the women at Scores. Funny(?) story: Last year at Scores, one of the guys I was out there with (friend of a friend) had gone on a $50k blackjack run, and decided he was going to go upstairs and see what was up. About 30 mins later, he comes back down more drunk than he was before, and says "OK guys, I have 5 of the HOTTEST women you have ever seen upstairs at a private table and they want to meet you." This guy had already proven himself an extreme douche, so I wasn't quite sure I wanted to go upstairs, mainly because I'd have to be around him. Nobody else wanted to go up, and he resorted to practically begging us to come upstairs. I couldn't stand his begging anymore, and agreed to go up. I get up there, and in the back corner find a roped-off table with 5 women at it. He's waving me in. "Come on dude, meet the girls!" The room is dark, and I can't quite see how hot they are, until I get closer and realize I am decidedly *not* into any of them. (I just can't get into fake boobs and collagen.) I say "Hold on a sec, I'm gonna go get everyone, BRB!" and quickly head downstairs. Get down there to see a brunette in a cat outfit (It was Halloween weekend last year) fully rubbing my friend's junk through his pants while whispering in his ear. He's making the "Let's go" gesture with his head, and I manage to round everyone up. A moderately hot scrippa sees me headed for the door, intercepts me, grabs my junk, and whispers "Where are you going?" into my ear. I say "I gotta split, I'm going to gamble." "Wait right here. I'm coming with you." she says.... "Errrr, what?" "I'm going to come with you. I just need to tell my boss I'm leaving." "You can just leave? Don't you have to, uhhhh, work?" "I CAN LEAVE WHENEVER I WANT. DON'T GO ANYWHERE. I'M COMING WITH YOU. BE RIGHT BACK!" She scampers off, and I make the "Let's get f- out of here" call, and we grab a car outside, leaving the friend of a friend upstairs with his silicone harem. The next day we end up running into him mid-afternoon. He's visibly hungover, and asking why we bailed on him. He says the women turned bitchy when we didn't come upstairs, but he ended up staying there for a few more hours. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
Good TR!
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LONG*
Great trip report, thanks for writing it up. I was really hoping one of those hand descriptions was going to result in you busting Castro.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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i saw her in vegas and in ac and she was hemorrhaging money all the way home. She pays so poorly, noone pays her off, despite the show. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, I'm surprised so many people see to know her. Could it be because of her relentless chatter? |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LONG*
the guy who stacked your buddy was jack. and ftr i think jack will be diagnosed with severe dementia the day he overbet shoves on a newbie w/o the nuts. i heard an obviously exaggerated rumor that he made $350,000 last year in the wynn 5/10 game, which, divided by the average las vegas table gossip inflation rate, probably still means six figures, but imo he doesn't need it.
castro is anne. i enjoy playing with her. she owes me a free turn and river next time we play, glad you mentioned her, almost forgot about that one. and regardless of what people think about her, she's good for the game b/c she changes the composition of a table just by being there. it has nothing to do w/ her play, it has everything to do w/ her personality and an attractive girl who isn't a gold digger playing in a reasonaly large game. btw rumor has it she went on a rampage in the 10/20 at the B a while back and killed the game for two months straight or something. like most players, when she's playing well she plays very good, but she doesn't always bring that game with her. -Tex |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
OP, you played your hands bad for the most part. You're also likely either gay, or a virgin by the way you are scared of women. So is your crew. Anne is a local and the plays she makes are "interesting" and everyone knows this. I will confirms Anne's hot streak for two months killing, but she went on about a four month downswing that has changed her game and she is on constant tilt now it seems. Yes Brandi is hot in person, and you are a jerk for running your mouth to the whole table and showing everyone pictures of her naked to the table while she was away.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] Either you my friend have the highest standards ever or went to the Rhino on the worst night of all time. I have been there plenty and have been surrounded by beautiful women for the most part each time. I have pretty high standards myself. Otherwise great TR. [/ QUOTE ] Buddy, I can't tell you how disappointed we were, especially after all of positive things I had read on the forums. We went to Scores last year, and all agreed that the women were much better-looking, overall. One of the other possibilities- it was really crowded, and most of the hot girls were already with clients, leaving the busted-up scrippas behind to fight for scraps? *shrug* [/ QUOTE ] Very distinct possibility. Which is why I never go there at night. 11am weekday Happy "Hour" FTW. The place is usually empty, and there's good pickings and if you get the right girl or two you can pretty much chill for 6+ hours easy without needing to drop 3Gs. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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OP, you played your hands bad for the most part. [/ QUOTE ] I'm surprised it took this long for someone to chime in with this. It must mean I am getting better. Which hands do you think I played bad? [ QUOTE ] You're also likely either gay, or a virgin by the way you are scared of women. So is your crew. [/ QUOTE ] Sure thing, boss. [ QUOTE ] Yes Brandi is hot in person, and you are a jerk for running your mouth to the whole table and showing everyone pictures of her naked to the table while she was away. [/ QUOTE ] I identified her when someone asked who she was. It was the guy with the iPhone that was sharing her pics to the table- not me. Was I a jerk for telling the guy who she was? Read it again. The only people I "ran my mouth off to" were my friends on the rail who weren't even in the game. If that makes me a jerk, then so be it. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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OP, you played your hands bad for the most part. [/ QUOTE ] Care to elaborate? I'm sure we'd all love to have a discussion about how the hands should have been played. Comments like yours are just mildly annoying and not the least bit interesting. [ QUOTE ] You're also likely either gay, or a virgin by the way you are scared of women. So is your crew. [/ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure he he is none of the above, and am very sure you are a douche. [ QUOTE ] ..... Yes Brandi is hot in person, and you are a jerk for running your mouth to the whole table and showing everyone pictures of her naked to the table while she was away. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't do that. Did you read the [censored] post you moron? It said "so I handed him my Blackberry, showed him my outgoing message to Cha, and said "Google that name." He types it into his iPhone, and I watch as his eyes go saucer-wide and he mouths "whoa." His iPhone is passed around the table, as everyone looks at her boobie pics and starts asking me more questions. I refuse to answer anything more. " Anyways, now that I have that stuff off my chest, great post octave! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
when I played with Anne she was talking nonstop about how much she loved to gamble... wanting to play a hand where we all put in $100 blind and check it down, etc. Yet I never once saw her actually do anything much that resembled gambling (without an edge, at least). She chose to straddle to come in after a seat change rather than waiting one more hand for her bb, but that's about the extent of it. I felt she was playing clearly too loose pf but the competition is bad enough that it didn't get her into trouble. I got the impression that she reads hands quite well although for the most part I've forgotten the specifics that led me to this conclusion.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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the guy who stacked your buddy was jack. and ftr i think jack will be diagnosed with severe dementia the day he overbet shoves on a newbie w/o the nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was 100% certain he had the nuts there. Too bad my friend didn't realize it. Afterwards, we were talking about the hand later and I explained that the betting pattern alone should have set off some alarms. He still thinks he made the right play. Oh well. [ QUOTE ] castro is anne. i enjoy playing with her. she owes me a free turn and river next time we play, glad you mentioned her, almost forgot about that one. and regardless of what people think about her, she's good for the game b/c she changes the composition of a table just by being there. it has nothing to do w/ her play, it has everything to do w/ her personality and an attractive girl who isn't a gold digger playing in a reasonaly large game. btw rumor has it she went on a rampage in the 10/20 at the B a while back and killed the game for two months straight or something. like most players, when she's playing well she plays very good, but she doesn't always bring that game with her. [/ QUOTE ] Ahhh cool, thanks for the info. She was definitely an interesting character. I tried to talk to her about Colorado, but she didn't bite. I didn't mind her in the games, it's just that she sticks out like a sore thumb. I'd definitely rather play with someone like her than the grouchy-ass Russian woman who was seated on my left, talking [censored] to everyone and having the floor called over because refused to square up the table. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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You're also likely either gay, or a virgin by the way you are scared of women. So is your crew. [/ QUOTE ] LOL at Octaveshift being gay. He didn't even try to hit on me. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] Either you my friend have the highest standards ever or went to the Rhino on the worst night of all time. I have been there plenty and have been surrounded by beautiful women for the most part each time. I have pretty high standards myself. Otherwise great TR. [/ QUOTE ] Buddy, I can't tell you how disappointed we were, especially after all of positive things I had read on the forums. We went to Scores last year, and all agreed that the women were much better-looking, overall. One of the other possibilities- it was really crowded, and most of the hot girls were already with clients, leaving the busted-up scrippas behind to fight for scraps? *shrug* [/ QUOTE ] A mediocre lineup at the Rhino is not all that unusual. I've been there three times, and only managed to spend a total of 40 bucks on top of the cover. I never got as scared as you, but the line about the women at work applies. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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Nobu We go the Palms for our 9pm reservation at Nobu. We opt for the "Chef's Choice" for 4 and a 1L bottle of sake. The food was phenomenal, per usual. However, the Australian Kobe was not particularly good, and left all of us a little disappointed. There were a few hot women floating around, but nothing over an 8. Meh. Tab comes and it's almost $900. Server tells us the credit card machine is down, so they have to call the card in by hand- and there is a long line in front of us. Since it was going on a corporate card, we had to sit around for about 20 minutes with our thumbs up our asses, while growing increasingly impatient. Good food, but a bad way to end the experience. [/ QUOTE ] well written trip report sounds like a blast, nice, but who spends $900 on a dinner for 4? you got robbed pal, seriously robbed. they stole your money and if it was me i'd be pissed |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] Nobu We go the Palms for our 9pm reservation at Nobu. We opt for the "Chef's Choice" for 4 and a 1L bottle of sake. The food was phenomenal, per usual. However, the Australian Kobe was not particularly good, and left all of us a little disappointed. There were a few hot women floating around, but nothing over an 8. Meh. Tab comes and it's almost $900. Server tells us the credit card machine is down, so they have to call the card in by hand- and there is a long line in front of us. Since it was going on a corporate card, we had to sit around for about 20 minutes with our thumbs up our asses, while growing increasingly impatient. Good food, but a bad way to end the experience. [/ QUOTE ] well written trip report sounds like a blast, nice, but who spends $900 on a dinner for 4? you got robbed pal, seriously robbed. they stole your money and if it was me i'd be pissed [/ QUOTE ] I've had a dinner that ran 1k for 4 ppl in Vegas at CraftSteak including booze. Some Big4 firm picked up the tab, yay for dining on corporate america! |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
In regards to the guy with the iPhone, he should be featured in one of those new iPhone testimonial commercials. "So this hot girl sits down next to me at a poker table.."
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
"she fancied herself a bit of a player" "the irritating cokehead from Colorado" "Hard to believe she's not busto by now" "i saw her in vegas and in ac and she was hemorrhaging money all the way home. She pays so poorly" some of you guys are real a-holes and need to grow up. i dunno what talking trash about a girl who's like 5'3 and maybe 100-lbs behind her back does for your egos. ann's not a great player, but she can certainly hold her own in any typical 5-10 game. and if one day it clicks together for her and she curbs some of her spewtarding tendencies, she has the talent (hand-reading ability and innate gamb000l) to go a lot further than the average nits who populate those games. she's a nice person; she's a female in a field that's overwhelmingly male, which i imagine must be tough enough in itself; and although she's not a very good poker player yet, she has the potential to be terrific. so get off her case already and pick on someone else. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
Nice TR.
But it's amazing that for as badly as you play, people play 10x worse, and you manage to be up money for the trip. Seriously, limping JJ otb behind others? soo bad. Raising with AJ on AQ9 to "see where you're at" also bad. You can flat-call the flop and see what he does on the turn. Also, if an 8/K falls on turn, you might be able to take away the pot on the turn (although I don't know if people can fold top 2 or Top/3rd pair) to represent JT. And if a blank falls on turn and he fires again, a fold is fine since the best you're against is AT, tying against AJ, and behind everything else. Also the 78 hand is awful. Raise the flop. There are so many cards that fall on turn that kill your action if the pfr does have QQ-AA, and since the board is so heavy, he might 3 bet you with TT as well thinking you might have diamonds or pair+straight draw. At the very worst, bet the turn. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
nice tr and who cares about how you played the hands or whether your meal cost too much. NITS. just enyoy the report or stfu
on strippers, i had same experience at Spearmint back in sept. totally overrated, plastic but less than fantastic. Treasures on the other hand was awesome. They even have a decent restaraunt there! 'would u like a dance between courses sir?'. oh, definitely... |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
haha i played with that women at the wynn in like ... early july, we got into it a couple times, she isnt good at teh pokerz
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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nice tr and who cares about how you played the hands or whether your meal cost too much. NITS. just enyoy the report or stfu on strippers, i had same experience at Spearmint back in sept. totally overrated, plastic but less than fantastic. Treasures on the other hand was awesome. They even have a decent restaraunt there! 'would u like a dance between courses sir?'. oh, definitely... [/ QUOTE ] QFT. TR's aren't strat posts...they're for fun for those of us not in Vegas. :shrug: I wonder if this is the same "Castro Anne" that I played w/ at the MGM and Rio during the WSOP this year. Anyway, great write up! Well written and fun to read. Thank you! I do have one question though...how does one get sick of Vegas? We were there for 10 days during the WSOP last year and needed another 3 months! It did help renting a vacation house SW of the strip, but still. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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the guy who stacked your buddy was jack. and ftr i think jack will be diagnosed with severe dementia the day he overbet shoves on a newbie w/o the nuts. i heard an obviously exaggerated rumor that he made $350,000 last year in the wynn 5/10 game, which, divided by the average las vegas table gossip inflation rate, probably still means six figures, but imo he doesn't need it. -Tex [/ QUOTE ] OT... I am surprised to hear he is a "big" winner in the game. The last time I played with him he spent more time away from the table than at it. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] the guy who stacked your buddy was jack. and ftr i think jack will be diagnosed with severe dementia the day he overbet shoves on a newbie w/o the nuts. i heard an obviously exaggerated rumor that he made $350,000 last year in the wynn 5/10 game, which, divided by the average las vegas table gossip inflation rate, probably still means six figures, but imo he doesn't need it. -Tex [/ QUOTE ] OT... I am surprised to hear he is a "big" winner in the game. The last time I played with him he spent more time away from the table than at it. [/ QUOTE ] Does he have longish hair and constantly smoke by the rail? That guy is a total nit so I could see him beating 5 10 pretty easily. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
Good TR. For some reasons TRs like these are the ones that make me want to go back the most. Nothing really went your way and it was still a good time.
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
People raising to "see where they're at" makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about poker being profitable for eternity
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Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the guy who stacked your buddy was jack. and ftr i think jack will be diagnosed with severe dementia the day he overbet shoves on a newbie w/o the nuts. i heard an obviously exaggerated rumor that he made $350,000 last year in the wynn 5/10 game, which, divided by the average las vegas table gossip inflation rate, probably still means six figures, but imo he doesn't need it. -Tex [/ QUOTE ] OT... I am surprised to hear he is a "big" winner in the game. The last time I played with him he spent more time away from the table than at it. [/ QUOTE ] Does he have longish hair and constantly smoke by the rail? That guy is a total nit so I could see him beating 5 10 pretty easily. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't see him smoking by the rail a lot, but yes, older "cowboy" with longer white hair and a cowboy hat. Jack is not a total nit but his play could be described as tight/passive and very straight forward. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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Yeah, I was 100% certain he had the nuts there. Too bad my friend didn't realize it. Afterwards, we were talking about the hand later and I explained that the betting pattern alone should have set off some alarms. He still thinks he made the right play. Oh well. [/ QUOTE ] There's no way you could have known that. The other poster who seems to know "jack" by name and has more experience with him might have known that. Calling here with a set isn't bad at all. We don't know "jack" (heh heh), so what does he have and is he bluffing, semi-bluffing, or has it? His range can't be huge here - set of kings is probably out (unless you've seen him be very passive all night preflop, still flat calling with KK is pretty unusual). A lot of players I know could have TT, JT, KJ, AK, AQ, assuming they're not semi-bluffing something like AJ or outright bluffing (unlikely). What hands does he think you have? That would be AA, AK, AQ, KK, JJ, TT, AQ, QQ, and misc other stuff. A lot of stuff you'll lay down there, which brings semi-bluffs into the picture somewhat. Let's do math assuming 80% chance he has AQ and 20% we're ahead. If behind AQ, we're about 2:1 to hit a full house+ FTW. The fact that he pushed "$1500" is irrelevant and just implies your friend's play was worse than it was. You said your friend lost $900, so I'll assume he started the hand with $900. So at the decision point, there is $435 in the pot, villain pushes for $690 more, which is what it costs your friend to call. So there's $1125 in the pot and $690 to call, which is 1.63:1. You're not far from the pot odds you need even if he flipped his AQ face up. Assume you win 1/3 of the time when you're behind, and you win the 20% of the time you're ahead (not totally accurate but gets us close). (1/3)(.8)($1125) - (2/3)(.8)($690) + (.2)($1125) = +$152 If you're 100% sure he has AQ (which you can't be), then it's (1/3)$1125 - (2/3)$690 = -$91 So the picture is hardly as bleak as people are making it sound - it's a very close play either way. |
Re: Trip report: Bellagio & Wynn 5/10NL, Rhino, Brandi sighting - *LON
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But it's amazing that for as badly as you play, people play 10x worse, and you manage to be up money for the trip. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. I never said I was a good player. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] Seriously, limping JJ otb behind others? soo bad. [/ QUOTE ] Oh, I know it's bad. Hence the "I find JJ, and flat call, like a weak-passive, set-mining douche." The metaphor of identifying a person as douche is intended to associated a variety of negative qualities, specifically low intelligence. [ QUOTE ] Raising with AJ on AQ9 to "see where you're at" also bad. You can flat-call the flop and see what he does on the turn. Also, if an 8/K falls on turn, you might be able to take away the pot on the turn (although I don't know if people can fold top 2 or Top/3rd pair) to represent JT. And if a blank falls on turn and he fires again, a fold is fine since the best you're against is AT, tying against AJ, and behind everything else. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I thought it was probably spew. (I even say it in the title for that hand.) Thanks for the analysis though. Makes sense. Also, it's funny how the phrase "to see where I was at" gets everybody's hackles raised, every time. It never fails. [ QUOTE ] Also the 78 hand is awful. Raise the flop. There are so many cards that fall on turn that kill your action if the pfr does have QQ-AA, and since the board is so heavy, he might 3 bet you with TT as well thinking you might have diamonds or pair+straight draw. At the very worst, bet the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Ya, I was talking to Cha last night, and I was saying that I think this one is by far the worst of the bunch. I spoke to Microbet about it earlier, saying I really should have bet the flop, but (if I recall correctly) he said he didn't mind it because it makes it look like I am drawing. I'll have to ask him again and see if that's what he said.... I then said "well, I should have at least bet the turn, so bad" and he said "if you knew a 7 was coming on the end, then yeah, but checking there isn't awful." Anyway, thanks for the analysis. You've saved me the embarrassment of having to post some of these hands in MSNL strategy. |
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