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DOTTT 11-06-2007 07:33 PM

JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
Don't have the current hand history sorry.

My stack: 130k
short stack: 28k
Below: something like 240k

Blinds are 2/4k with 400 ante. Table is 5 handed and were on the FT bubble. I think I have a very tight image at this point, only showed down solid hands. Below has been dominating, playing well, catching cards and playing aggressively.

I'm dealt JJ utg and make it 10k utg, short stack pushes, after some time below over calls. It's 19k to me to call, so I can still re raise. What's your play?

EC10 11-06-2007 07:34 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
i dont think you're going to get any answer other than shove

gobboboy 11-06-2007 07:53 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
I could probably spite Alex and just say fold but I have to agree with him here.

stealthmunk 11-06-2007 08:00 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
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I could probably spite Alex and just say fold but I have to agree with him here.

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although it is closer than some may think, TT may not be a shove.

gobboboy 11-06-2007 08:04 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
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I could probably spite Alex and just say fold but I have to agree with him here.

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although it is closer than some may think, TT may not be a shove.

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I'll agree with this. If you just called I would not berate you at all.

Doylestown 11-06-2007 08:05 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
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i dont think you're going to get any answer other than shove

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shaundeeb 11-06-2007 08:35 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
meh I think below is huge here a lot. This is closer then anyone will give it credit for.

thabess 11-06-2007 09:02 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
...40K IN POT...EZ SHOVE...WILL NOT BE SNAP CALLED BY BELOW N IN THE RARE CASE HE DOES CALL U.. U SHOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY AHEAD OF HIS A6/A7/A8/A9/A10/KQ/44/55

Bond18 11-06-2007 10:00 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
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meh I think below is huge here a lot. This is closer then anyone will give it credit for.

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I agree Shaun. I'm not reshoving TT.

DOTTT 11-07-2007 04:17 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
ok just wanted to make sure I wasn't being result oriented. I shoved he called with kk.

Chesskid1 11-07-2007 04:29 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
I was going to agree with the huge sentiment before you posted the results. What range are we putting belowabove on here that we think is folding to a reshove by us but would call the short stack? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I don't think he is calling with like AJ, KQ, etc, call by AQ seems pretty proned to get shoved off of too and maybe he would iso raise(?), espically on the bubble. He just screams huge to me. AK could be possible though, but most of the time i think it would be QQ+?

i must sound retarded, but im too lazy to fix this post atm

Bakes 11-07-2007 04:58 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
you don't and i'm with you...OP even said his image was very tight! Not sure why below is getting no credit here.

adanthar 11-07-2007 05:55 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
UTG (5 handed but still) raises w. ~30 BB behind
short stack shoves 7 BB
below coldcalls

= he's big enough to call a shove here, like, always

now what he's doing with TT is another story

DOTTT 11-07-2007 06:54 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
He could have 88-TT AQ planning on folding if I shoved, but his whole entire cold calling range is very small here.

88-TT,KK,AA,AQ. I think he shoves QQ and AK.

betgo 11-07-2007 07:07 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
Based on the title, without reading the post, allin.

registrar 11-07-2007 07:09 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
What's his position?

DOTTT 11-07-2007 07:21 PM

Re: JJ on the FT buble vs. Belowabove
 
He was on the button.


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