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Qrawl 11-06-2007 02:30 PM

People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
When you're playing poker, and someone beats you then turns over their cards to show you the bluff... that's a horrible person. They'll always be a horrible person. I don't care what it's intended to do, the person that does it is someone you should avoid in future. They're horrible people that just want to rub things in your face. They have something to prove. That's my take on people that turn their cards over to show their bluff. It's inexcusable behavior.

Nichlemn 11-06-2007 02:36 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
I'd say they can be very helpful: as get successfully bluffed frequently is something you rarely get positive feedback on, due to never seeing the other player's hole cards. Now you have.

Qrawl 11-06-2007 02:48 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Yes, it's good to see their cards. I'm talking about the people that show it.

bernie 11-06-2007 03:20 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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When you're playing poker, and someone beats you then turns over their cards to show you the bluff... that's a horrible person. They'll always be a horrible person. I don't care what it's intended to do, the person that does it is someone you should avoid in future. They're horrible people that just want to rub things in your face. They have something to prove. That's my take on people that turn their cards over to show their bluff. It's inexcusable behavior.

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Maybe you shouldn't play poker if you feel that strongly about it.

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Qrawl 11-06-2007 03:22 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Do you show bluffs

timmay28 11-06-2007 04:40 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Who the hell cares what kind of person he is. You should be glad he's showing you exactly what his betting patterns mean.

Kurn, son of Mogh 11-06-2007 04:57 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Are you actually suggesting that rubbing someone's nose in it is wrong???

aislephive 11-06-2007 05:42 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
I show bluffs all the time, good for image purposes. I guess that makes me a horrible person. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Kurn, son of Mogh 11-06-2007 05:46 PM

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I show bluffs all the time, good for image purposes. I guess that makes me a horrible person. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I almost never show my cards unless the rules say I have to, mainly because I think it messes with opponents heads more to keep them in the dark.

But since my goal is to put psychological pressure on my opponent, I guess that makes me a bad person, too. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

But Bernie was right. If OP gets that upset about it, he should go play hopscotch.

Qrawl 11-06-2007 08:16 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Are there professional hopscotch players?

pshady 11-06-2007 09:43 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Wow, really, that makes you horrible? I always didn't show my bluffs and just typed i bluffed it on the chat box figuring this was more horrible.

garcia1000 11-06-2007 10:01 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2104/teapartyex4.jpg

bernie 11-06-2007 10:35 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Do you show bluffs

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No.(though I might show you or someone else who got that bent out of shape over it)

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MediaPA 11-06-2007 11:26 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Yes, it's good to see their cards. I'm talking about the people that show it.

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How do you see their cards if they don't show it? ***head explodes***

Qrawl 11-06-2007 11:48 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Im talking about when you lose most of your stack, and then the idiot shows you he was bluffing you. That's a horrible person.

kailua 11-06-2007 11:56 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Im talking about when you lose most of your stack, and then the idiot shows you he was bluffing you. That's a horrible person.

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more likely a horrible read and fold

Qrawl 11-07-2007 12:03 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
No, Im a reasonable person. I've thought about it, and decided Im correct. Only a horrible person would do that. This thread can be closed now.

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-07-2007 12:50 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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When you're playing poker, and someone beats you then turns over their cards to show you the bluff... that's a horrible person. They'll always be a horrible person. I don't care what it's intended to do, the person that does it is someone you should avoid in future. They're horrible people that just want to rub things in your face. They have something to prove. That's my take on people that turn their cards over to show their bluff. It's inexcusable behavior.

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Maybe you shouldn't play poker if you're going to be such a weak-tight nit that you're afraid to call without the absolute nuts.

NL Rounder 11-07-2007 01:29 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Im talking about when you lose most of your stack, and then the idiot shows you he was bluffing you. That's a horrible person.

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LOL...you risk MOST of your stack, LOSE by assumedly folding and THEN get upset when shown a bluff?

You're upset at the wrong person...check a mirror.

bernie 11-07-2007 01:53 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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No, Im a reasonable person. I've thought about it, and decided Im correct. Only a horrible person would do that. This thread can be closed now.

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Good joke/troll thread.

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The Velour Fog 11-07-2007 02:54 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
i show bluffs from time to time. for me its an image thing to get better action in the future, if the oponent gets upset as well i consider it a bonus since upset people tend to make worse decisions.

ADK 11-07-2007 03:38 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
part of the game, and encourages action in the future

Rek 11-07-2007 06:16 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Qrawl, you sound too sensitive to play poker.

Poker is a greedy game and you want to do all you can to bleed the other players of their cash. If you think showing a bluff = horrible person that is just plain ridiculous. They are doing it for a reason, normally to make you tilt and play worse. It sounds as though you probably would.

I actually never show cards if I don't have to. I think you lose more than you gain by revealing cards. However, I don't not show because I am nice. If I thought it was +EV I would show every bluff I make. Not to be horrible but to take your money.

If you sit at a table and are trying to take my money away I could say that you are the horrible one.

choccypie 11-07-2007 06:36 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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When you're playing poker, and someone beats you then turns over their cards to show you the bluff... that's a horrible person. They'll always be a horrible person. I don't care what it's intended to do, the person that does it is someone you should avoid in future. They're horrible people that just want to rub things in your face. They have something to prove. That's my take on people that turn their cards over to show their bluff. It's inexcusable behavior.

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They do it to try to put you on tilt. I guess in your case, it works...

Styhn 11-07-2007 07:00 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
If this is a joke then shame on me for replying, but why the hell would anyone play poker if you can't take the bluffs?

Qrawl 11-07-2007 08:35 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
If you have to resort to cheap tactics like that, you probably need to improve your game. It didn't put me on tilt. The only thing that puts me on tilt is losing preflop all-ins when I have the best hand (e.g. AA vs Q4 os... QQ on the flop, etc).

Qrawl 11-07-2007 08:39 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Oh yeah, another thing that puts me on tilt... being shortstack, everyone folds to me when Im SB, I have KK, I allin, BB has AA, etc. It's times like that when I think maybe there is a god.

Styhn 11-07-2007 08:53 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Somehow I think that it does put you on tilt.

Rek 11-07-2007 09:11 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Somehow I think that it does put you on tilt.

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+1

In fact it seems this post was made on tilt

Yepitis 11-07-2007 11:23 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Back when I was more stupid then I am now I used to get pissed when anybody showed their cards when they didn't have to. Now I still think it is retarded for them to do so but I am glad when they do.

Of course folding a better hand in a large pot will put most people on tilt which is what happened in this case.

Albert Moulton 11-07-2007 01:29 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
The sentiments expressed in the OP are a good example of why showing a bluff is probably a good idea sometimes. Clearly, as in the case of the OP, it puts some players in a mindset of "I'm going to get that SOB next time." As a result, the next time the bluffer has a big hand, he might very well get paid off.

Personally, I try to cultivate a very tight, "solid" image. I usually don't make a big bluff unless (1) I've established that solid image, (2) I'm up against a good player who can lay down a 1-pair hands, and (3) there is enough money in the pot to make it worth my while to make my move.

But I NEVER show it when it works, because I'd rather keep those good players thinking that I usually have a big hand when I make a big bet.

But players that do show the bluff aren't horrible people. And if you feel that way about them, then you are justifying their play by letting it effect your mindset at the table. After all, that is why they showed it in the first place. Just be grateful for the free information.

Styhn 11-07-2007 02:12 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Indeed. I think the only time I show a bluff is when I'm playing with friends and we're trying to mess with each other (which is always the case).

Qrawl 11-07-2007 04:22 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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Clearly, as in the case of the OP, it puts some players in a mindset of "I'm going to get that SOB next time."

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Huh? Where did you get this from? It didn't put me in that mindset. In fact, he went bust a few minutes later.

Kurn, son of Mogh 11-07-2007 04:26 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
The only thing that puts me on tilt is losing preflop all-ins when I have the best hand (e.g. AA vs Q4 os... QQ on the flop, etc).

If that puts you on tilt, you definitely don't have the psychological makeup to be a good player.

Qrawl 11-07-2007 04:33 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
I'm on tilt after reading these replies. Poker players are horrible people all around. I want to log on and chip dump at low level FL tables now. You all disgust me. Im logging off for good

garcia1000 11-07-2007 11:44 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Before you log off can you give me your handle and which site you play at?

Qrawl 11-07-2007 11:54 PM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Why

OnYourBike 11-08-2007 04:25 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
I show bluffs because I am a horrible person. It takes a mean person to be a great player.

Styhn 11-08-2007 05:36 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
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I'm on tilt after reading these replies. Poker players are horrible people all around. I want to log on and chip dump at low level FL tables now. You all disgust me. Im logging off for good

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At what site and at what table?

El_Hombre_Grande 11-08-2007 06:55 AM

Re: People that show bluffs are horrible people
 
Wow. I love it when people voluntarily let me know what cards they had, good or bad. I never return the favor, though.

You may want to try solitaire.


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