AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

Whats ur play here?
villain is like 19/13 over 200 hands, and we havent tangled much besides the occasional 3bet... no big pots between us

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $99.90
BTN: $69.10
Hero (SB): $171.20
BB: $140.15
UTG: $43.05
MP: $222.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $4</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $17</font>, BB folds, MP calls $13, BTN calls $13

Flop: ($52) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $33</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $205.55 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $52.10 and is All-In, Hero

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

whoa

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

Raise more preflop. 20-22 is better. Anyways, I'm calling.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

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whoa

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my thoughts exactly

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

I really don't see what they could have called your raise with PF that is now beating you, and you have the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Call for sure, I think you see KK-JJ a lot here.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

Calls.

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Raise more preflop. 20-22 is better. Anyways, I'm calling.

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Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

BTN doesn't bother me much, MP does however. He has decent implied odds on his call there making mid pps a good part of his range here I would think, though why the overshove if he hit his set. I tend to agree with McSwizzle. He seems to be shoving you out of the pot. With that thought in mind, I think we have to call here. I dont like stacking off this deep with a 1pr hand but I agree with McSwizzle. You see smaller overpairs alot here.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

I think I fold.

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I think I fold.

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Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

check shove

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

Another one of those spots. People like to call reraises with suited connectors and pocket pairs, especially when a little deep. Suited connectors and pocket pairs hit this board really really hard. You're usually going to be marginally ahead or pretty far behind. Against this sort of villain, he probably has a set here the vast majority of the time so you're just going to be far behind.

I snap <font color="white">FOLD</font>

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

The overbet smacks of a draw IMO. You may have a slight edge in this pot if only HU v deep villain but given 2nd villains call in I think your more often enough behind.

Sooo close in fact I think this is a marginal fold. Call if you like to gamboool.

Could someone stove this?

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

fold. MP has a set here so often.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

Raise more preflop - 20$ seems about right.
I think I fold this, you'll be seeing a set here pretty often and you are underdog even vs JTs, so you are hoping for a flip which is usually not good.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

I think i fold, we are praying to see JJ,QQ...TT?
I think u see a set here a lot, flopped 2 pair sometimes, and huge draws the rest i.e. 79 / 77.
Against this total range, i dont think we are good here often enough.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

hello varaince. call

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

He called the 3bet first. Not many sets in his range. Cawl. Although having the Ad is kinda bad.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

not really some9, can't see the guy calling with AXs pre

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and you have the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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This is bad for us.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

call really fast.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

fold

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I think u see a set here a lot

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If by a lot you mean 'almost never', I agree.

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flopped 2 pair sometimes

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If by sometimes you mean 'less than 5% I agree

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and huge draws the rest i.e. 79 / 77

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If by huge draws you mean any two diamonds, 77 and lots of pair + gutshot hands, TT, 99, 55 etc. and by 'the rest' you mean nearly every time he doesn't have KK, I agree.

This is a really easy call. Folding is a mistake.

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

call, i don't think this is as high a variance spot as we think imo

Re: AA ~200bb deep - 100nl
 

If the player who was also deepstacked called the 3bet after anothe rplayer had called it, then it'd be a pretty easy fold IMO because then mid pps would be a part of his range. i think that his range is overs/fd and high pp's, as well as sets but much more rarely. I ended up calling, and he had KTdd (and he hit his flush [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )