AK
 

35/25/3, small 4bet was to induce something
BB ($1019.50)
UTG ($327.50)
MP ($972.70)
Hero ($435.80)
SB ($165.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $44</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $132</font>, BB calls $88.

Flop: ($266) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($266) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $624</font>

Re: Coach said post
 

i play everything the same and obv call his shove.

Re: Coach said post
 

Seems like the hand is played fine. Sorry if this was a cooler but there's no way you can fold in a 4bet pot after taking the free card and hitting your top pair on the turn.

I do think it's pretty obvious that you're representing exactly AK and it's also fairly apparent that villain isn't concerned about that hand... but it's still almost impossible to fold in this spot against this type of opponent. If your villain were of the 16/13/2 variety I might think about folding but even then the pot is so big that it's still really close.

Re: Coach said post
 

i think this is actually a fistpump call
edit: if not for the Q it definitely would be

Re: AK
 

its still kind of gross but you should call the turn shove. nh.

Re: AK
 

your 4bet size isnt really good. either 4-bet shove or make it like $101. your 4-bet amt just leaves you with super awkward stacks to play with.

Re: AK
 

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your 4bet size isnt really good. either 4-bet shove or make it like $101. your 4-bet amt just leaves you with super awkward stacks to play with.

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wait, you mean 101 MORE right?

Re: AK
 

no, like 100-110 or so. 3x his raise is sortve the worst of both worlds.

Re: AK
 

i think leaving a PSB to play for is the best way to 4bet in this spot.

Re: AK
 

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no, like 100-110 or so. 3x his raise is sortve the worst of both worlds.

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could you elaborate plz? you want to make it 100-110 total? id be making it 150 total if i was gonna 4 bet, why is that bad?

Re: AK
 

i'd rather just shove then. you leave yourself with such awkward stacks to play on the flop. you accomplish the exact same thing by 4-betting smaller- i mean, that extra $40 or whatever isn't going to dissuade villan to make more moves postflop (i suppose sometimes it might). if you 4-bet to like $150, whats your typical plan on a blank flop? you've put in nearly 1/2 your stack with not too many options.

so, yeah, i like 4-betting a bit smaller or just shoving pf.

Re: AK
 

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i'd rather just shove then. you leave yourself with such awkward stacks to play on the flop. you accomplish the exact same thing by 4-betting smaller- i mean, that extra $40 or whatever isn't going to dissuade villan to make more moves postflop (i suppose sometimes it might). if you 4-bet to like $150, whats your typical plan on a blank flop? you've put in nearly 1/2 your stack with not too many options.

so, yeah, i like 4-betting a bit smaller or just shoving pf.

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i just thought about this and u&gt;me

fwiw i like 4b shove &gt; c and shove non a/k flops &gt; what happened here.