Bottom FH vs CS
 

Villain was 38/17/1 over 100 and appeared like a CS. I made some cbets here and there, but i doubt he recognized it.
No big bluff yet neither me or him.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $470
UTG+1: $2492
Hero: $3072
Button: $2381
SB: $3848
BB: $1990

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($210, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $150</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($510, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $370</font>, SB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1250, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $660</font>,

On turn i was debating wether to vbet or not the river, but then he bet out, no timing tell.

Re: Bottom FH vs CS
 

vs cole south im just gonna call here

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I cant imagine folding or raising. So call seems good.

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I cant imagine folding or raising. So call seems good.

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vs cole south im just gonna call here

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lol

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vs cole south im just gonna call here

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lol

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agree, this is pretty awesome

without more information this appears to be exactly a call

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I guess I can fold this. Also I dislike the turn bet.

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i would probably call, i think you see a queen a lot though. It will be a pp a lot though too and it looks kinda like a blocker so I couldn't fold. i'm also not so sure about the turn bet, I don't really like it but I guess it's not terrible. If he checked river I would bet as played btw.

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Well he could be a huge sucker, anything else than calling seems out of question but I would check the turn for sure most of the time. Makes the hand a lot easier to play and you induce a lot more calls on the river than on the turn against most Callingstations. On the other hand there is a difference between stations so firing the the turn for value is not that bad imho, maybe against some stations even superior.

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Well I'm guessing he wouldn't be asking whether he should have value bet if he got shown a Q.

Also, I'm pretty sure that at 10/20 even calling stations are aware of the concept of a continuation bet. WTF else do they tell themselves when they press the call button?

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folding here sucks

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Half potsize, could be a weird fish blocking bet with Ace high, pair bigger than 6's or even a 6 himself. I don't think folding is good against this type of a player.

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Also, I'm pretty sure that at 10/20 even calling stations are aware of the concept of a continuation bet. WTF else do they tell themselves when they press the call button?

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other possibilities:
1) "i have AK high. if he doesn't have a pair, my hand is probably good!"
2) "i might make a pair on the turn"
3) "i might make a draw on the turn that i can hit on the river"
4) "mmm...peanut butter"

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this seems like he shows you a Q pretty often here

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Fold unless you think he bluff called the turn to bluff lead the river...Doesn´t seem like the type of play a callstation would make to me..

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I would def. check the turn and have called a riv bet., as played, I dont like his bet strat-wise, casue you are betting that six if he had checked, and may have bluffed had you had nothing. anyway, as played I think its okay either way, I would lean towards a call and hope for 88 or something like that.

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it could be a tell that he bet 660.

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easy fold, also i can't believe you bet the turn

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Hes a calling station and i wanted max value

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bet turn.
call river.

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It's a calling station so of course you have to take him to value town, nothing wrong with the turn IMO. Checking is also a valid line depending on dynamics (e.g. he peels the flop light and will try to take the pot away when you check the turn, etc.)

And these types of players do all kinds of weird illogical stuff so you really can't fold. If you knew he was the type to make "brave" river calls then you could perhaps even make a case for smallraise/fold.

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cant think ur good often enough here.

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Split-pot!

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it could be a tell that he bet 660.

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yea i also think hes the devil or something

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without further info i am never folding this. these kinda player do all kind of strange stuff.

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I cant imagine folding or raising. So call seems good.

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