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MattHH 11-05-2007 01:06 PM

The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
I was wondering what you guys think the effect of the Turning Stone not having a liquor license is? My guess is that the tables would be more tight passive...?

Dr. Spaceman 11-05-2007 01:28 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
More 18-20 year olds.

goldtoes 11-05-2007 01:32 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
...the same it's been forever??

mikeinNY 11-05-2007 02:11 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
nobody acting nutty and slurring words, but still many, many, people donking chips off, and many young 18-20 yr olds also...and, some ppl bring in their own booze anyway...i'll be there playing friday afternoon/evening if anyone else will be there, give me a shout, should be fun and hopefully profitable

smeyers003 11-05-2007 02:20 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
I think all the 18 year olds more than make up for the fact that no one there is drunk.

steelbase 11-05-2007 02:54 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
How are the limit games up there?

mikeinNY 11-05-2007 03:13 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
Virtually non existent. Ive been always wondering why they dont spread anything between 4-8 and 15-30 as id love to play 8-16 or 9-18 or 10-20, but they dont.....They have 2-4, 4-8, and one 15-30 table running. The good news is, the 15-30 is supposed to be a very, very good game usually

Rick Nebiolo 11-05-2007 03:26 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
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Virtually non existent. Ive been always wondering why they dont spread anything between 4-8 and 15-30 as id love to play 8-16 or 9-18 or 10-20, but they dont.....They have 2-4, 4-8, and one 15-30 table running. The good news is, the 15-30 is supposed to be a very, very good game usually

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With one game and I suppose many 2+2 types within driving distance how long can this stay a "very, very good game usually"?

~ Rick

magicmcq 11-05-2007 03:27 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
15-30 is an absolute loose passive joke there.

Except one or two good players, and many people calling 2 bets cold with A6o and Q7s

mikeinNY 11-05-2007 03:32 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
I just stated it's a good game from second hand, I dont have the roll for 15-30 so I just play 100,200 and sometimes 300NL...with the 300 being very agressive and wild at times, 25 buck pre flop raises in 2-5 with 5 callers, etc....but rick keep in mind also, even if many 2+2'ers w/in distance, they wouldnt all go at same time, even if 2-3 good players at the table just need a couple loose calling stations, which from what I understand what magicmcq stated, it looks to have

MattHH 11-06-2007 11:15 AM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
Wow, I didn't realize 18+ yr olds were able to play in any casino.

How many 2/4 and 4/8 limit tables do the usually have going?

Mr. AtlanticCity 11-06-2007 12:57 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
What effect?

Sober fish instead of drunk fish. Simple.

lewdjunglist 11-06-2007 01:58 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
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nobody acting nutty and slurring words, but still many, many, people donking chips off, and many young 18-20 yr olds also...and, some ppl bring in their own booze anyway...i'll be there playing friday afternoon/evening if anyone else will be there, give me a shout, should be fun and hopefully profitable

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Is it still BYOB? If so, you haven't been playing there long enough. I've seen many people drunk, slurring, acting a fool, donking/lagtarding around big time while sipping on straight vodka. It's great. I remember a guy's good time hanging by a thread many times because he was so wasted they were going to kick him out.

Not serving just allows them to bring in the 18+ y/o kids to donk off their money. Some do well, but their are some great stations there.

scott1 11-06-2007 02:45 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
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Is it still BYOB?

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It was not a month ago. They were trying once again to get a liquor license and had sign all over saying you were not allowed any alcohol in any area of the casino, including rooms. We smuggled bottles of liquor upstairs to our room and mixed drinks, but the poker room was a really sober place.

mikeinNY 11-06-2007 03:16 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
well, not officially byob but i smelt/saw many people with drinks last weekend....there's a few tables each of 2/4 and 4/8...i'll be there all day/night friday trying to make some dough at the 100NL and hopefully 200NL if/when they get a good game going...not ready for the 300 game b/c its 2-5 and plays very large but if you have the bankroll id highly recommend it, just bring a few buyins b/c suckouts will happen all day long

Photoc 11-06-2007 04:06 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
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Wow, I didn't realize 18+ yr olds were able to play in any casino.


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Google when you get a chance for this. There are quite a few 18+ casinos and have been for many years now. TS has been 18+ for something like 13 or 14 years now.

Mr. AtlanticCity 11-06-2007 05:34 PM

Re: The effect of no booze at Turning Stone
 
Yeah, I was there last week (visiting family in the area) and it was more sober then an AA meeting. You can still drink, but you need to be secret about it. Don't come in with a 2 liter of coke and a bottle of grey goose and mix at the table. If you pre-mix your liquor in the parking lot or in your hotel room in a big water bottle or even those huge 64 oz soda mugs they sell at gas stations, you will be fine.

Yeah, TS is doing it's typical song and dance "We don't pay taxes to the State but we want the State to give us everything in return". New York State will not give a alcohol license to TS as long as TS does not pay taxes to the State. I am semi-confused on how TS can do anything it wants and not pay taxes, sell tax-free tobacco becuase it is on Indian land, but it needs a license from the State for alcohol.


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