Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?
 

I recently decided to be serious with limit online poker. Deposited $600 into full tilt to play 1/2 limit, started posting on 2+2, reading more books and getting myself serious into limit. I track my stats and others, I am tight aggressive and find my stats mostly where they should be. Yet somehow most of my sessions are losing sessions. It's very frustrating and I don't know where to look to find holes in my game. Nearly everything I read in poker tracker looks correct to me. It even rates me as tight aggressive. I know stats alone don't dictate a good player but I feel like I do things correctly more often than not. It's not simply bad beats that I am losing money on. How does someone figure out what they are doing wrong or if it actually is variance?

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it is hard to win at minbet as you cannot put opponents for decision for all their chips

switch to unlimited holdthems and crush the opposition!

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As long as PT rates you as TAG, everything should be fine.

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How many hands? you could easily have played 10k hands of good poker and be down $$$.

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More than 5000, less than 6000. Ok lets assume its variance. When do you start to see a profit? I am down almost $175. That's a little ground to make up. Am I all of a sudden going to have seemingly magical sessions where everything goes my way and profit goes up and up, back to back? I don't understand how if you lose so much, variance or not, you can all of a sudden be winning over and over without a serious run of cards. At these levels people play generally play well so how can those magic sessions just start appearing all of a sudden?

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Try 1.4 million hands

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No. No, no, no, no, no. Well, yes.

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 

Win more than you lose. There are some incredibly deep concepts buried within that central poker concept, if you think about it hard enough. Yeah.

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 

The trick is to recognize when you hit that eventual rush of cards, and move up to higher stakes to play your rush. Everything in-between is just waiting.

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1/2 limit, especially shorthanded, is the sickest game I play as far as variance and horrific constant river beats, sometimes you'll feel like your in a never ending downswing becuase your opponents hit magic cards on the river over and over again but just keep at it, 175 isn't a bad loss at all and can easily be made up.

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How many hands? you could easily have played 10k hands of good poker and be down $$$.

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I went on a hike yesterday, & for some reason I kept saying "DLORC" to myself. I couldn't for the life of me remember why I was saying it, until I say your name on here this morning.

God I'm getting old...

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I am scared, please dont hurt me.

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I recently decided to be serious with limit online poker. Deposited $600 into full tilt to play 1/2 limit,

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I lollllll'd so hard.

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How do you find the holes?

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DIP HER IN FLOUR AMIRITE?

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Review a session hand by hand with the replay function in poker tracker. If you click through the action and hit the odds calculator when it is your decision, you can see if you are chasing. I did this and it showed me I was a big dog in some hands that that I lost.

If you do this and you are alway +ev then it is just variance, but I doubt it. Start by looking at your biggest loosers.

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Review a session hand by hand with the replay function in poker tracker. If you click through the action and hit the odds calculator when it is your decision, you can see if you are chasing. I did this and it showed me I was a big dog in some hands that that I lost.

If you do this and you are alway +ev then it is just variance, but I doubt it. Start by looking at your biggest loosers.

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it's harder than that to find holes, there are many cooler situation that you will lose big pots while behind all the way and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
high pair vs bigger high pair on 33355 board
flush over flush, set over set, AQ vs AK on Axxxx board, etc.

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 

move up, you're bankroll management is too conservative

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the holes?
 

play better. stats dont make you good. you have to know when to fold, and when to raise, and when to call, and when to c/r 4 streets for value, and when to make aggressive calls or folds, or open limp, or bluff off one BB.

after you figure that out come back and post your sick gains.


see you at the top

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 

look at biggest pots won and lost after each session
pokerstove some of these hands
figure out best line in these hands
write down your opinions in the notes section of pt

eventually you don't just want to figure out optimal lines, you want to figure out best lines vs. certain types of players given different images of you they may have

also, while reviewing hands look at the names of the opponents you played them against and memorize the reads you get

don't worry about the money, always strive to improve, and the money takes care of itself

Re: Can it be variance if you constantly lose? How do you find the ho
 

1. get more monies in when ahead
2. get less monies in when behind
3. ?????
4. Profit

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3. beat off to QQ

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The trick is to recognize when you hit that eventual rush of cards, and move up to higher stakes to play your rush. Everything in-between is just waiting.

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