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SABR42 11-04-2007 11:42 PM

BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.
 
Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: $313.75
MP2: $619.10
CO: $435
Hero (BTN): $484
SB: $148.45
BB: $858.40
UTG: $1,788.90
UTG+1: $396
UTG+2: $336.10

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $16</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $313.75 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $435 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $315

Flop: ($1,189.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($1,189.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($1,189.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,189.75 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP1 showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON $472.15 (+$158.40 NET)
CO showed A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Tens) and WON $714.60 (+$279.60 NET)
Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$435 NET)

They both had 0 outs LDO.

skitzo444 11-05-2007 12:19 AM

Re: BRAG: I had two guys drawing dead.
 
What about running tens?

skitzo444 11-05-2007 12:20 AM

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Wait...I'm dumb.

Voltaire 11-05-2007 12:29 AM

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Ah, how sweet, but you forgot one thing. They're only drawing dead when you're ahead.

BingoBango 11-05-2007 12:33 AM

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Ah, how sweet, but you forgot one thing. They're only drawing dead when you're ahead.

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you would think someone with the sn voltaire would be smarter than this. Gawd

Scansion 11-05-2007 12:36 AM

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Wait...I'm dumb.

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LOL

Claunchy 11-05-2007 12:38 AM

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EZ fold preflop in full ring unless villains are sick LAGs.

SDone 11-05-2007 01:20 AM

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If you had caught a king on the flop those two would have had the sickest feeling ever. Like the feeling when someone is about to sink your last battleship.

Hollywade 11-05-2007 01:39 AM

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I hope I'm not the only one who's folding this at a full table.

obiedman 11-05-2007 01:40 AM

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If you had caught a king on the flop those two would have had the sickest feeling ever. Like the feeling when someone is about to sink your last battleship.

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god i hate this feeling so much it really makes me sick to my stomach

Hollywade 11-05-2007 01:41 AM

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Hero raises to $120

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I think this 4-bet is reasonable.

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Hero calls $315

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I think this call of two all-ins is not smart.

plzleenowhammy 11-05-2007 01:43 AM

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the only way i would ever fold this is if mp1 and co got up and started dancing around and high-fiving people..

88jayhawks 11-05-2007 01:43 AM

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I hope I'm not the only one who's folding this at a full table.

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Keyser. 11-05-2007 01:44 AM

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EZ fold preflop in full ring unless villains are sick LAGs.

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aka 17/14. so sick, once saw a full ring guy run 19/16, he had the table tilted.

obiedman 11-05-2007 01:45 AM

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now that i actually read the hand,

zomgwtf easy fold

bottomset 11-05-2007 01:50 AM

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EZ fold preflop in full ring unless villains are sick LAGs.

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aka 17/14. so sick, once saw a full ring guy run 19/16, he had the table tilted.

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19/16 9handed is a lot laggier than many SSNL, MSNL players

hell doesn't goofyballer run 15/12 6handed

waxhax0rs 11-05-2007 01:53 AM

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the only way i would ever fold this is if mp1 and co got up and started dancing around and high-fiving people..

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Nice alluding skills.

Josem 11-05-2007 05:00 AM

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is the 6-bet in full ring pre-flop ever NOT AA?

primate 11-05-2007 05:15 AM

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good call, you had outs

skillgambler 11-05-2007 05:16 AM

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everyone who says it's an easy laydown apparently didn't read the OP, in which he said, that he used his sick hand-reading skills to determine, that both villains were drawing dead.

pococurante 11-05-2007 05:17 AM

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is the 6-bet in full ring pre-flop ever NOT AA?

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Considering the odds he's getting, the slight chance that AA isn't there means this call isn't too bad.

He had to call $315 in order to play for an $1190 pot. Also, if MP1 has aces but CO does not, Hero can win $240 from the side pot. And there's always the chance the opponents have KK QQ JJ or AK (or 94 offsuit, who the hell can predict what idiots do).

I wouldn't make that call but it doesn't seem terrible, it's about even money I'd say.

Josem 11-05-2007 05:24 AM

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it's a freaking six-bet in a three-way pot with two players all-in ahead of him, at $2/$4 full ring, with over 100bb stacks vs the CO, and 80bb vs the MP1 raiser.

if he can't find a fold with KK there, I don't know what he's credibly thinking.

SABR42 11-05-2007 05:29 AM

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if he can't find a fold with KK there, I don't know what he's credibly thinking.

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Umm, I run good at flopping a king?

fybpm 11-05-2007 06:10 AM

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Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$435 NET)


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Landlord79 11-05-2007 12:22 PM

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if he can't find a fold with KK there, I don't know what he's credibly thinking.

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Umm, I run good at flopping a king?

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This is almost as good as the old lady telling me in a live game that she played K-7o because "I make two pair alot."

Landlord79 11-05-2007 12:23 PM

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Hero mucked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$435 NET)


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http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...fan59/fail.jpg

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[x] Brownie points

Ribbo 11-05-2007 01:03 PM

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Labarde 11-05-2007 01:14 PM

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BRAG: I made a drawing of two guys being dead

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scott2130 11-05-2007 02:25 PM

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This works better when they both have KK and you have AA. They are drawing dead and you are ahead. Much more profitable.

sh58 11-05-2007 02:48 PM

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we fold KK preflop now?

Woolygimp 11-05-2007 02:54 PM

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we fold KK preflop now?

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yeah, full ring this is super standard...

....when did this site go to [censored], everyone on here is clinically retarded.

Dan87 11-05-2007 03:18 PM

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This works better when they both have KK and you have AA. They are drawing dead and you are ahead. Much more profitable.

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9TJQx or a 4 flush, nobody is ever drawing dead PF.

vaughn345 11-05-2007 03:46 PM

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EZ fold preflop in full ring unless villains are sick LAGs.

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qft you're so dead here.

Hollywade 11-05-2007 05:25 PM

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we fold KK preflop now?

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I like to do so when I know an opponent has AA.

Hollywade 11-05-2007 05:28 PM

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9TJQx or a 4 flush, nobody is ever drawing dead PF.

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Good point. It's definitely worth stacking off here knowing you have to hit a king or make a straight. King high flushes don't work so well when you're up against two people with aces.

Dan87 11-05-2007 05:48 PM

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i was talking about ways for the two people with KK to win when you have AA, which is why I quoted that scenario not the one in the OP..

Its kinda hard for you to have both KK's covered for flushes

vaughn345 11-05-2007 06:00 PM

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This works better when they both have KK and you have AA. They are drawing dead and you are ahead. Much more profitable.

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9TJQx or a 4 flush, nobody is ever drawing dead PF.

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well you can be assured of not winning preflop, you could always split though. say QQ/QQ/KK/KK/AA/AA preflop. both KK guys cannot win.

NoSetNoBet 11-05-2007 06:05 PM

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Are we folding KK preflop because it's over 100 BB's, or because it's full ring? Did all those other rants and picture thread contests only apply to 6-max?

SABR42 11-05-2007 06:11 PM

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Are we folding KK preflop because it's over 100 BB's, or because it's full ring? Did all those other rants and picture thread contests only apply to 6-max?

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Serious reply: given this action a fold was likely correct.

This kind of situation will come up so rarely that I'm not losing much long-term.

ImsaKidd 11-05-2007 06:14 PM

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This works better when they both have KK and you have AA. They are drawing dead and you are ahead. Much more profitable.

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9TJQx or a 4 flush, nobody is ever drawing dead PF.

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well you can be assured of not winning preflop, you could always split though. say QQ/QQ/KK/KK/AA/AA preflop. both KK guys cannot win.

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