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aaokwitme 11-04-2007 08:09 PM

Absolute poker and yet another SCAM!
 
Ok so I play a free roll on AP and win 1st place out of 9,753 players. It's free to play, but rebuys are 0.50 an add ons are eather 0.50 or 1.00 i forget as I nether rebought or added on.

there where about 7,000 rebuys and about 2,000 add ons,
= $45,000 to $55,000 in the prize pool. They paied 64 spots and 1st place was $53.00 + they gave the top 5 players a seat to the "AP challenge", so I though, ok this must be where all the money goes; thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

This means AP took in about $700,000 and paid out about $1,700 in total $$.
Sadly as a USA player I dont know where to go but I will not stay at AP and will post this where ever I can.

DON'T PLAY AT ABSOLUTE POKER!!!

thac 11-04-2007 08:12 PM

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Where do you get this $700,000 number from?

JSmith2007 11-04-2007 08:13 PM

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http://catsnstuff.files.wordpress.co...-wait-what.jpg

mookboi 11-04-2007 08:14 PM

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Am I missing something, or is OP retarded?

dibbs 11-04-2007 08:15 PM

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Crack is a helluva drug.

augie_ 11-04-2007 08:15 PM

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i think you are bad at math and many other things im sure

ibluffoldladies 11-04-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Absolute poker and yet another SCAM!
 
How are we supposed to agree or disagree when you can't even get the facts straight? Go sober up, get the details right, and post again.

JSmith2007 11-04-2007 08:41 PM

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How are we supposed to agree or disagree when you can't even get the facts straight? Go sober up, get the details right, and never post again.

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FYP

DarkKnight 11-04-2007 09:07 PM

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9,000 x $0.50 to $1.00 = $4,500 - $9,000

Mrnoluv 11-04-2007 09:14 PM

Re: Absolute poker and yet another SCAM!
 
He must not be up to multiplication in school yet. But how dumb do you have to be to still be playing at AP? What else do you want to happen at that site before you realize it's not the place to play? You want them to steal money from your bank accounts?

Alobar 11-04-2007 09:22 PM

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He must not be up to multiplication in school yet. But how dumb do you have to be to still be playing at AP? What else do you want to happen at that site before you realize it's not the place to play? You want them to steal money from your bank accounts?

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I dunno man, if people like OP are playing there, its obviously a huge fish pond

john voight 11-04-2007 09:26 PM

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wow

aaokwitme 11-04-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Absolute poker and yet another SCAM!
 
yes typo i put an extra 0 on the 45 and 55 even still AP challenge would hve had a compined total of 700,000, cause each player reresents 1,000 in cash.


Side note. I find it funny that many peeps feel the need to make a nasty responce to a siple typo. It just shows how sad you are.

PrimogenitoX 11-04-2007 09:56 PM

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I dunno man, if people like OP are playing there, its obviously a huge fish pond

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From http://www.absolutepoker.com/tournam...y-of-week.html

My worst play ever was when I first started playing on Absolute Poker. It was actually very funny and dumb (by the way I just learned how to play). I thought I had a straight and was very excited about it. I really thought I had a winning hand. I had in my hand an A 2. The flop came out as K Q J. So I thought yes!!! I hit the straight since 2 came after A, if you know what I mean...LOL (J Q K A 2). Then the turn was an 8 and then the river was a 5, and I raised all in with my 242 dollars I had left thinking I had the winning hand. He called and he had hit his two pair, Kings and Queens and I lost being very confused. I argued that I had a straight when everyone at the table was telling me I didn't have a straight and calling me a donkey, which hurt my ego. That's when I truly had to read over everything about Texas Hold'em again.

cardman 11-04-2007 09:59 PM

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2 + 2 = 700000

Josem 11-04-2007 10:01 PM

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let me be clear and simple for the mathematically challenged:

9,753 players

some players would have rebought, many would have not rebought at all, and so on (including addons).

let's assume that your figures were right. Thus, 9,000 people would have paid an extra 50c, making an extra 50c per player.

thus, 9,000 players * $0.50 = $4,500



as far as i can see, the $700k figure is just made out of thin air, and has no relevance to this situation.

cardman 11-04-2007 10:07 PM

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I argued that I had a straight when everyone at the table was telling me I didn't have a straight and calling me a donkey, which hurt my ego. That's when I truly had to read over everything about Texas Hold'em again.

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Oh god, can't stop laughing.

R*R 11-04-2007 10:31 PM

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Nice win! 1st out of over 9,000 and while your numbers are off the prize money for first seems very low if total was $4,500. One thing I can agree with is that you get off of Absolute.

justin 11-04-2007 10:47 PM

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sad that op is this retarded and has managed to post over 300 times on the forum

beaver 11-04-2007 10:48 PM

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I find it funny that many peeps feel the need to make a nasty responce to a siple typo.

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Oh man...

R*R 11-04-2007 10:53 PM

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thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

DON'T PLAY AT ABSOLUTE POKER!!!

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I kept in your caps. That was good. But if the total prize pool was $1,000 and there were 700 players then total buyin value is approx. $1.50
So you won 53 + 1.50 for $54.50. Assuming the prize pool was $4,500 in the freeroll rebuy and first would get say 20% you should have won $900. These numbers will allow you to do proper research. You should have won $900 not %54.50. I have a feeling the rebuys were $.05 or .10 and not $.50 or a $1.00 and hence the $54.50 return.

notfoold 11-04-2007 11:00 PM

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First: All of their freerolls are usually maxed out at 5000 players. If you played one with that many entrants (Doubt it), then

Second: Typically there are between 70 -90 rebuys, and 20- 30 add-ons. Occasionally more, but rarely.

Third: Prize pools typically run between 120 and 200 bucks.

Fourth: You earned what you deserved. Weekly 1000 is for top 5 entrants from each freeroll that week...no rebuys or add ons there.

Fifth: You are soundly retarded.
Sixth: Pass the crank.

Alobar 11-04-2007 11:10 PM

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I dunno man, if people like OP are playing there, its obviously a huge fish pond

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From http://www.absolutepoker.com/tournam...y-of-week.html

My worst play ever was when I first started playing on Absolute Poker. It was actually very funny and dumb (by the way I just learned how to play). I thought I had a straight and was very excited about it. I really thought I had a winning hand. I had in my hand an A 2. The flop came out as K Q J. So I thought yes!!! I hit the straight since 2 came after A, if you know what I mean...LOL (J Q K A 2). Then the turn was an 8 and then the river was a 5, and I raised all in with my 242 dollars I had left thinking I had the winning hand. He called and he had hit his two pair, Kings and Queens and I lost being very confused. I argued that I had a straight when everyone at the table was telling me I didn't have a straight and calling me a donkey, which hurt my ego. That's when I truly had to read over everything about Texas Hold'em again.

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lol, awesome

[Phill] 11-04-2007 11:14 PM

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Ok so I play a free roll on AP and win 1st place out of 9,753 players. It's free to play, but rebuys are 0.50 an add ons are eather 0.50 or 1.00 i forget as I nether rebought or added on.

there where about 7,000 rebuys and about 2,000 add ons,
= $45,000 to $55,000 in the prize pool. They paied 64 spots and 1st place was $53.00 + they gave the top 5 players a seat to the "AP challenge", so I though, ok this must be where all the money goes; thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

This means AP took in about $700,000 and paid out about $1,700 in total $$.
Sadly as a USA player I dont know where to go but I will not stay at AP and will post this where ever I can.

DON'T PLAY AT ABSOLUTE POKER!!!

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(7,000 * $0.50) + (2,000 * $1) = 45,000?

I mean, comon, how can you be so bad at basic math and logic - and still be capable of turning on your computer?

Id also love to hear where $700,000 came from too.

But no, the biggest lol here. You knew about the origional scam (see thread title) but its infact something to do with some freeroll that made you leave the site?

sixers030409 11-05-2007 12:03 AM

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i guess only dumb people are still playing at AP, maybe i should go back.

dlk9s 11-05-2007 12:17 AM

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I still have the AP software on my computer, so I logged in to check the freerolls. I can't find any that had 9,000+ people in them. As someone said earlier, the max capacity is 5,000.

Black winter day 11-05-2007 12:25 AM

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Does OP realise that he wasted his huge field donkament win on a freeroll?

pokerg1 11-05-2007 12:28 AM

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ap sucks

toutatis70 11-05-2007 01:12 AM

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Thank you for this thread. I really did'nt understand why people would still play on absolute until now.

apefish 11-05-2007 03:27 AM

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ap sucks

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depends on the ap.

slsmagicc 11-05-2007 02:49 PM

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yes typo i put an extra 0 on the 45 and 55 even still AP challenge would hve had a compined total of 700,000, cause each player reresents 1,000 in cash.


Side note. I find it funny that many peeps feel the need to make a nasty responce to a siple typo. It just shows how sad you are.

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Nasty responses ARE necesary because you are stating that Absolute is scamming people are they are not. Go back to math class!

aaokwitme 11-05-2007 09:31 PM

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let me be clear and simple for the mathematically challenged:

9,753 players

some players would have rebought, many would have not rebought at all, and so on (including addons).

let's assume that your figures were right. Thus, 9,000 people would have paid an extra 50c, making an extra 50c per player.

thus, 9,000 players * $0.50 = $4,500



as far as i can see, the $700k figure is just made out of thin air, and has no relevance to this situation.

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

aaokwitme 11-05-2007 09:34 PM

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thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

DON'T PLAY AT ABSOLUTE POKER!!!

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I kept in your caps. That was good. But if the total prize pool was $1,000 and there were 700 players then total buyin value is approx. $1.50
So you won 53 + 1.50 for $54.50. Assuming the prize pool was $4,500 in the freeroll rebuy and first would get say 20% you should have won $900. These numbers will allow you to do proper research. You should have won $900 not %54.50. I have a feeling the rebuys were $.05 or .10 and not $.50 or a $1.00 and hence the $54.50 return.

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Thank you for a real reply. but no the rebuys where 0.50 and 1.00 dubble rebuy the add on I cant rember.

Josem 11-05-2007 09:36 PM

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

aaokwitme 11-05-2007 09:38 PM

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First: All of their freerolls are usually maxed out at 5000 players. If you played one with that many entrants (Doubt it), then

Second: Typically there are between 70 -90 rebuys, and 20- 30 add-ons. Occasionally more, but rarely.

Third: Prize pools typically run between 120 and 200 bucks.

Fourth: You earned what you deserved. Weekly 1000 is for top 5 entrants from each freeroll that week...no rebuys or add ons there.



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There were 9753 players.

All that I stated is true.

aaokwitme 11-05-2007 09:42 PM

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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Please read the post.

Bobo Fett 11-05-2007 09:44 PM

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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I'm assuming he means that AP got $1,000 in extra money from each event that the 700 people qualified through. Of course, 5 came from his event, so it would only take 140 events like that. Plus of course we're missing a ton of other information.

OP, no one has any idea if you have a legitimate point or not, as you have completely fouled up all the numbers here. What was actually paid out in cash in the event you played in? You mentioned a $53 first prize and 64 paid spots, but I don't think you ever said how much the total prize pool was. Also, do you have an actual number of people who rebought, or were those numbers just your assumptions?

aaokwitme 11-05-2007 11:03 PM

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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I'm assuming he means that AP got $1,000 in extra money from each event that the 700 people qualified through. Of course, 5 came from his event, so it would only take 140 events like that. Plus of course we're missing a ton of other information.

OP, no one has any idea if you have a legitimate point or not, as you have completely fouled up all the numbers here. What was actually paid out in cash in the event you played in? You mentioned a $53 first prize and 64 paid spots, but I don't think you ever said how much the total prize pool was. Also, do you have an actual number of people who rebought, or were those numbers just your assumptions?

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Let me start over, I played in a free role on AP. There was 9,753 players, this event was not capped at 5,000. I don't know why I have looked since and have not found one with more than 5,000, but thats how many players there where. rebuys = 0.50 dubble rebuys = 1.00 add ons I forget but they where 0.50 or 1.00.

there where about ( about) 7,000 rebuys and about 2,000 add ons, so this = $4,500 to $5,500 in the prize pool. They paied 64 spots and 1st place was $53.00 + they gave the top 5 players a seat to the "AP challenge", so I though, ok this must be where all the money goes; thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

This means AP took in about $700,000 ( everyone askes where does 700,000 come from), answer is if my free role took in 4,500 to 5,500 and gave 5 seats to the AP challenge then thats about 1,000 a player, 5000 divided by 5 players to move up to AP challenge. There where about 700 players from other free roles and the like in the AP challenge, so 700 x 1000 = 700,000 That was why I said I thought (wrongly) it was a 1,000 buy in event.
Anyway top prize for the AP chalenge was 250. I say it has to be a scam because where does the money go.
Allso to answer you Q about the rebuys and add ons they post this on the lobby as the tourney is in progress and yes 7,000 and 2,000 where the round numbers for them.

Bobo Fett 11-05-2007 11:20 PM

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OK, your numbers are making a little more sense now. I still see two things that are missing, though.

How much was the prize pool for the original tourney? This could dramatically affect your calculation.

Also, the $700,000 figure assumes that every player got into the AP Challenge the same way...is that the case?

dlk9s 11-05-2007 11:55 PM

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Tournament name, date, time, and tournament number, please.


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