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Trere is no statistic from villian.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($10) UTG ($9.90) UTG+1 ($8.01) MP1 ($3.95) Hero ($11.97) MP3 ($7.10) CO ($7.57) Button ($4.04) SB ($8.05) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.80. Flop: ($2.55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $7.57 (All-In), Hero calls ... Should i bet on flop? What should i do after rerase? Your opinion ? |
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Eh, I'd put his range on JJ, KK, AA, or AKd. We're behind all of these hands, I'd be interested for someone with stove to run these equity numbers.
I think it's a fold though, we're only getting a little better than 2:1, and I don't think we're 33% against that range. |
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The only question is whether you fist pump before or after you click call.
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Re-raise pre-flop to define your hand then it should be easier to get away from it after the flop IMO.
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sorry, bad post.
The post should be next. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($10) UTG ($9.90) UTG+1 ($8.01) MP1 ($3.95) Hero ($11.97) MP3 ($7.10) CO ($7.57) Button ($4.04) SB ($8.05) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.80. Flop: ($2.55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $7.57 (All-In), Hero ... |
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4 betting pf is terrible. Snap call flop.
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Crai flop. No reason to donk it really.
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i would try to keep the pot small after the flop and see his play on the turn
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i would try to keep the pot small after the flop and see his play on the turn [/ QUOTE ] Good luck keeping the pot small in a rr pot, oop, vs a slightly shortstacked player. |
Re: QQ
Yes,there is no hands wich i can beat.
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snap call and send TPTK to the poor house.
He has AJ/KJ at these stakes more often than he has AA/KK/JJ & AKdd combined - we gots one [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] so the flush draw has one less out than it thinks it does. I think this range is a little too tight and we are ~55/45 favourite against it - so snap call with fist pump. 40,590 games 0.003 secs 13,530,000 games/sec Board: 3d 9d Jh Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 46.934% 45.77% 01.16% 18578 472.50 { JJ+, AdKd, AJs, KJs, AJo, KJo } Hand 1: 53.066% 51.90% 01.16% 21067 472.50 { QdQs } |
Re: QQ
ok, given those stats, it looks like a call
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Re: QQ
I think one valid point is that w/o a decent # of hands on villain you really have no clue as to whether he's got a decent hand, an overpair, a flush draw/etc
At low limits you'll frequently see wild raises/bets and imo the hardest thing about lower stakes games is identifying the crazies who play 13/7 and then suddenly push allin into a tiny pot oop with total air vs a nit. His range is certainly bigger than you think, which is why this is a profitable call @ 10nl. |
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ok, call is profitable.
But my first action on flop.Is it right. Should i check? |
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Easy fold, ur either facing AA, KK or a set of jacks, even if u give urself 10% equity that hes bluffing. I would play that hand the same way. I dont rr oop in micro without a read or AA KK
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Should i check? [/ QUOTE ] Yes yes yes. |
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I don't like leading the flop after we flat called preflop (which I like), but check/raise should be pretty standard here against a 75bb stack that we have no history with.
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Easy fold, ur either facing AA, KK or a set of jacks, even if u give urself 10% equity that hes bluffing. I would play that hand the same way. [/ QUOTE ] this range is more accurate: Board: 3d 9d Jh Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 55.525% 54.52% 01.01% 28067 517.50 { QdQs } Hand 1: 44.475% 43.47% 01.01% 22378 517.50 { JJ+, AdKd, AJs, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, A5s-A4s, Ad3d, Ad2d, KdJd, KdTd, QdJd, JdTd, AcKh, AcKs, AdKh, AdKs, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, KdJh, KdJs, KhJs, QcJh, QcJs, QhJc, QhJs, QsJc, QsJh, JcTd, JcTh, JcTs, JdTh, JdTs, JhTs } We are still a 55:45 favourite. This range is basically A2dd+ (nut fd - AJdd has also nfd+TP - no AQdd cos we gots the Q) JJ+ (top set - QQ for the tie - and 2 better Overpairs) AJo (TPTK) KJdd/QJdd (TPGK+fd) AKo (AKo 1/4 of times he is dealt to represent a bluff) KJo/JTo (1/2 of times dealt) We could think that we were a 35:65 underdog and it will still be a profitable call to make in the long run we are getting better than 3:1 pot odds. In fact the range of *just* JJ+ and 10% of the time as a bluff is ~34/66 so is about breakeven (losing slightly cos of the rake.) [ QUOTE ] I dont rr oop in micro without a read or AA KK [/ QUOTE ] If you don't reraise QQ and AK from any position you are burning money. |
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