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Hypothetical BCS Rankings, not best teams...

1. tOSU
2. Oregon
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Kansas
6. West Virginia
7. Missouri
8. Arizona St.
9. BC
10. Georgia
11. Michigan
12. VA Tech
13. UCONN
14. Texas
15. Hawaii
16. USC

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Meh, trying to project the BCS rankings early is pretty pointless IMO. The key for Oregon and LSU from here on out is there remaining schedules; you can't really peg them down yet.

As for ranking a Top 25 on merit, I can't get past #15 until the Cal/WSU game goes final.

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Top 5 teams (who are the best teams):
1) Oregon
2) LSU A&M
3) tOSU
4) Oklahoma
5) Kansas

Where I would rank the teams if I could vote (what they deserve):
1) tOSU
2) Kansas
3t) LSU A&M
3t) Oregon
5) Oklahoma

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1. OSU 10-0
2. Kansas 9-0 (#2 till they lose)
3. Oregon 8-1
4. LSU 8-1
5. Oklahoma 8-1
6. W Virginia 7-1
7. Missouri 8-1
8. ASU 8-1
9. Virg Tech 7-2
10. USC 7-2
11. Auburn 7-3
12. BC 8-1
13. Georgia
14. Florida
15. Alabama
16. Michigan
17. Texas
18. Connecticut
19. Clemson
20. Penn State
21. Arkansas
22. Cal
23. Illinois
24. Wake Forest
25. Virginia
26. Florida st
27. S Carolina
28. Wisconsin
29. Kentucky
30. S Florida
31. Tennessee
32. Cincy
33. Kansas St
34. Boise St
35. Hawaii
36. Oregon St
37. Georgia tech
38. Colorado
39. BYU
40. Miami
41. Texas A&M
42. Rutgers
43. Texas tech
44. Louisville
45. Vanderbilt

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Okay, this is really starting to get interesting now with BC and ASU out of it. Who can win out and who will be left out? The title matchup will almost certainly come from these teams. Here's the order of priority if they win out IMO.

OSU (obviously)
Kansas (won't be denied if they beat Missouri and OU)
LSU (will be v. close with Oregon)
Oregon (11-1 looking inevitable)
Oklahoma (need help)
Missouri (beating KU and OU would put them ahead of WVU)
WVU (need a miracle a la LSU '03)

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Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about that ordering lately and you've got it absolutely right Austiger. I still think Arizona State has a little bit of a chance if they win out, but you've certainly got the general idea.

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And now that WSU's snuffed out, here's my Top 32:

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Oklahoma
5. West Virginia
6. Kansas (lost in the win over Nebraska is that their defense gave up 39, they still seem a little flaky to me)
7. Missouri
8. Arizona State
9. Boston College (the win at Va. Tech's still good, they deserve a Top 10 spot for now)
10. Auburn
11. Florida
12. USC
13. Connecticut
14. Georgia
15. Virginia Tech
16. California
17. Kentucky
18. Michigan
19. Cincinnatti
20. South Florida
21. Texas
22. Clemson
23. Alabama
24. Tennessee
25. Arkansas
26. Boise State
27. Florida State
28. Penn State
29. Virginia
30. South Carolina
31. Hawaii
32. BYU

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Yeah, once you get down to ASU you have to start thinking about OSU and Kansas again if they finish with one loss. I just hope it isn't clear-cut so that the BCS controversy reappears.

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23. Illinois
28. Wisconsin
29. Kentucky
30. South Florida

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Come on, Arnold_O, I know you're a Big Ten homer, but give me a break. Illinois with a loss to Iowa and their best win over Penn State and Wisconsin with their best win over........ Indiana? ahead of Kentucky and USF? Give me a break. Those teams have the same number of losses and Kentucky and USF have played much tougher schedules. Beating LSU and Auburn >>>>>> beating Indiana and Penn State.

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23. Illinois
28. Wisconsin
29. Kentucky
30. South Florida

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Come on, Arnold_O, I know you're a Big Ten homer,

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my polls are always a little biased. i'm usually looking to put a patsy in the #2 slot so OSU gets another one just like '02



actually, i think illinois is somewhat deserving. they kept it close with missouri and michigan and beat penn st and wisconsin. not too shabby.

forgiveness for the iowa game plus it was very close -- the same way auburn gets forgiveness for losing big to Miss St

s florida is spiraling down although they looked better than cincy today

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I'm not a college football expert at all.

My opinion:

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Oklahoma
5. Kansas
6. West Virginia
7. Missouri
8. Arizona State
9. Boston College
10. Virginia Tech
11. USC
12. Connecticut
13. Michigan
14. Georgia
15. Hawaii
16. Florida
17. Texas
18. Clemson
19. Alabama
20. Auburn
21. Boise State
22. Tennessee
23. California
24. Virginia
25. Penn State

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1. OSU
2. Oregon
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Kansas
6. West Virginia
7. Arizona State
8. Missouri
9. Florida
10. Boston College

Something like this.

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio St
3. Oregon
4. LSU
5. Oklahoma
6. Missouri
7. BC
8. Ariz St
9. Connecticut
10. West Virginia
11. Hawaii
12. Boise St


Thats pretty much all that matters.

101,982 and counting

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1. OSU 10-0
2. Kansas 9-0 (#2 till they lose)
3. Oregon 8-1
4. LSU 8-1
5. Oklahoma 8-1
6. W Virginia 7-1
7. Missouri 8-1
8. ASU 8-1
9. Virg Tech 7-2
10. USC 7-2
11. Auburn 7-3
12. BC 8-1
13. Georgia
14. Florida
15. Alabama
16. Michigan
17. Texas
18. Connecticut
19. Clemson
20. Penn State
21. Arkansas
22. Cal
23. Illinois
24. Wake Forest
25. Virginia
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26. Florida st
27. S Carolina
28. Wisconsin
29. Kentucky
30. S Florida
31. Tennessee
32. Cincy
33. Kansas St
34. Boise St
35. Hawaii
36. Oregon St
37. Georgia tech
38. Colorado
39. BYU
40. Miami
41. Texas A&M
42. Rutgers
43. Texas tech
44. Louisville
45. Vanderbilt

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Why is everyone ranking West Virginia over Missouri? The only top 25 team they have beaten is Rutgers (ranked 25 at the time). The Mountaineers' one loss to South Florida is not looking as good now.

Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska). They also dropped a 55-10 bomb on Colorado who defeated Oklahoma and came close versus Kansas. All three of those games were at Boulder. Mizzou's only loss came in Norman to Oklahoma in a game they were leading heading into the fourth quarter.

I think it's close between ASU and Missouri, but I'm working off the "what's happened most recently bias". Plus, I'm a Mizzou homer.

Bearing this in mind, here are my rankings.

1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Oregon
4. Oklahoma
5 Kansas
6. Missouri
7. Arizona State
8. BC
9. West Virginia
10. Georgia
11. Virginia Tech
12. Michigan

Edited to switch Oregon and LSU.

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Top 5 teams (who are the best teams):
1) Oregon
2) LSU A&M
3) tOSU
4) Oklahoma
5) Kansas

Where I would rank the teams if I could vote (what they deserve):
1) tOSU
2) Kansas
3t) LSU A&M
3t) Oregon
5) Oklahoma

Who is this LSU A&M you speak of? I have never heard of them and I thought I was pretty knowlegable in all divisions of college football

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LSU hires Coach Fran after Miles bolts for Michigan?

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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Top 5 teams (who are the best teams):
1) Oregon
2) LSU A&M
3) tOSU
4) Oklahoma
5) Kansas

Where I would rank the teams if I could vote (what they deserve):
1) tOSU
2) Kansas
3t) LSU A&M
3t) Oregon
5) Oklahoma

Who is this LSU A&M you speak of? I have never heard of them and I thought I was pretty knowlegable in all divisions of college football

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Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College. It's on my diploma.

People are all touchy about THE Ohio State University -- I'm just using the proper name! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Also, the Predictor has WVU-#4 and MU-#9, but the Elo_Chess has MU-#7 and WVU-#12.

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23. Illinois
28. Wisconsin
29. Kentucky
30. South Florida

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Come on, Arnold_O, I know you're a Big Ten homer, but give me a break. Illinois with a loss to Iowa and their best win over Penn State and Wisconsin with their best win over........ Indiana? ahead of Kentucky and USF? Give me a break. Those teams have the same number of losses and Kentucky and USF have played much tougher schedules. Beating LSU and Auburn >>>>>> beating Indiana and Penn State.

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This isn't how you're supposed to rank teams. The BCS already takes SOS into account. Rankings should be based on how good you think the teams are. Not their resumes. Arguing that his rankings should be adjusted because of those teams' best wins is dumb. Watching the games is the only real way to tell the teams apart.

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1. tOSU
Other 1. North Dakota State
2. Grand Valley State
3. Mt. Union

/polls

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Also, the Predictor has WVU-#4 and MU-#9, but the Elo_Chess has MU-#7 and WVU-#12.

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Yeah, but ELO_CHESS is retarded.

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Who is this LSU A&M you speak of?

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LSU hires Coach Fran after Miles bolts for Michigan?

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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Also, the Predictor has WVU-#4 and MU-#9, but the Elo_Chess has MU-#7 and WVU-#12.

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Elo_Chess is a giant pile of garbage. Northern Iowa is #10, giant LOL.

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Also, the Predictor has WVU-#4 and MU-#9, but the Elo_Chess has MU-#7 and WVU-#12.

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Elo_Chess is a giant pile of garbage. Northern Iowa is #10, giant LOL.

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I thought that was an exaggeration, WOW! ND State #14.

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Keep in mind the BCS usues ELO Chess

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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i havent seen west virgina play that much so i dont have a strong opinion but to be fair missouri has to have a large margin of victory as well..they crushed colorado, crushed texas tech,...they dindt beat illinois by much at all but if u look at score at the end of each quarter missouri was up by like 28 at one point...crushed nebraska (who doesnt tho) when missouri has won they have won big

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Why is everyone ranking West Virginia over Missouri? The only top 25 team they have beaten is Rutgers (ranked 25 at the time). The Mountaineers' one loss to South Florida is not looking as good now.



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I don't think WV is that good. I would put them behind BC, and certainly behind Mizzou.

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why exactly does ASU drop below BC in the BCS after losing to oregon while BC lost to FSU?

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Because the voters are stupid and because BC was ranked higher last week.

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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1. Ohio State (10-0) 1 2823 0.9993 1 1493 0.9953 1 99 0.990 0.9949 1
2. LSU (8-1) 2 2640 0.9345 2 1393 0.9287 2 96 0.960 0.9411 3
3. Oregon (8-1) 3 2590 0.9168 3 1376 0.9173 3 92 0.920 0.9180 5
4. Kansas (9-0) 5 2322 0.8219 5 1241 0.8273 4 88 0.880 0.8431 8
5. Oklahoma (8-1) 4 2518 0.8913 4 1330 0.8867 7 74 0.740 0.8393 6
6. Missouri (8-1) 7 2111 0.7473 7 1143 0.7620 8 72 0.720 0.7431 9
7. West Virginia (7-1) 6 2291 0.8110 6 1222 0.8147 12 60 0.600 0.7419 7
8. Boston College (8-1) 8 1836 0.6499 8 951 0.6340 6 81 0.810 0.6980 2
9. Arizona State (8-1) 9 1720 0.6088 9 946 0.6307 5 84 0.840 0.6932 4
10. Georgia (7-2) 11 1651 0.5844 10 927 0.6180 9 62 0.620 0.6075 10
11. Virginia Tech (7-2) 13 1500 0.5310 11 829 0.5527 10 61 0.610 0.5645 11
12. Michigan (8-2) 15 1332 0.4715 13 770 0.5133 13 49 0.490 0.4916 12
13. Connecticut (8-1) 16 1137 0.4025 16 568 0.3787 10 61 0.610 0.4637 13
14. Texas (8-2) 12 1540 0.5451 14 757 0.5047 18 27 0.270 0.4399 15
15. Florida (6-3) 17 1079 0.3819 18 529 0.3527 15 47 0.470 0.4015 20
16. Hawaii (8-0) 10 1677 0.5936 12 807 0.5380 NR 0 0.000 0.3772 14
17. USC (7-2) 14 1404 0.4970 15 706 0.4707 23 16 0.160 0.3759 19
18. Auburn (7-3) 18 975 0.3451 17 551 0.3673 17 28 0.280 0.3308 16
19. Virginia (8-2) 21 486 0.1720 21 259 0.1727 14 48 0.480 0.2749 23
20. Boise State (8-1) 19 747 0.2644 19 368 0.2453 22 19 0.190 0.2333 22
21. Clemson (7-2) 20 493 0.1745 20 318 0.2120 16 30 0.300 0.2288 25
22. Alabama (6-3) 22 437 0.1547 23 174 0.1160 20 23 0.230 0.1669 17
23. Penn State (7-3) 26 178 0.0630 25 105 0.0700 19 24 0.240 0.1243 NR
24. Tennessee (6-3) 24 251 0.0888 24 114 0.0760 24 15 0.150 0.1049 NR
25. Kentucky (6-3) 23 288 0.1019 22 197 0.1313 26 4 0.040 0.0911 NR </pre><hr />

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

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missouri lost pig brown though...defensive captain is out for the season honestly that might really hurt them vs kansas/oklahoma

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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

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Probably Kansas.