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wattascoop 11-03-2007 09:48 PM

Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
Feel free to flame away, but I just wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience with chessexpress on FTP:

* Plays 10NL and buys in for $2.
* Has two moves: all-in or fold. Never even completes the small blind.
* If wins an all-in (and always shows down mid to high pairs or AK-AJ), immediately leaves the table

The player multitables, never talks (even when asked if he/she is a bot) and has 7/7/0 stats after about 200 hands I've played against it.

I realize that creating a bot at 10NL seems extremely -EV, but maybe it's someone trying to design a bot and is testing it at low levels? I can't imagine someone not getting bored out of their mind playing the way described above.

toutatis70 11-03-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
If chess express has less than 10k in the FTP account than chess is not a bot.

11-03-2007 09:54 PM

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11-03-2007 09:57 PM

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elrudo 11-03-2007 10:16 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

ibluffoldladies 11-03-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

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wattascoop 11-03-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

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Sorry, don't know what that means.

edfurlong 11-03-2007 10:57 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
A pm is a private message.

a nonymous 11-03-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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A pm is a private message

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and Mr. Gatorade is a bot-hunter.

PrimogenitoX 11-04-2007 12:11 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

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Sorry, don't know what that means.

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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

Joe Tall 11-04-2007 12:55 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

[/ QUOTE ] Check his site, Destroythebots.com

apefish 11-04-2007 01:13 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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I can't imagine someone not getting bored out of their mind playing the way described above.

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Jesus wants to have a word with you.

Dire 11-04-2007 03:56 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
likely a chess player

so standard.

jocke4 11-04-2007 05:12 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
well, its not that hard to beat the ChessExpress?
Just call w AK+

Pokerpun 11-04-2007 07:30 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
Incidentally Chess Express was the name of a chess magazine in the 80s which folded after about 3 issues

Hamburglar 11-04-2007 07:33 AM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
raise his bb!

wattascoop 11-04-2007 12:17 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

[/ QUOTE ] Check his site, Destroythebots.com

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Thanks.

-moe- 11-04-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

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Sorry, don't know what that means.

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someone pm Mr.Gatorade.

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Ehehe.. good one.

RioGossiper 11-04-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Feel free to flame away, but I just wonder if anyone else has had a similar experience with chessexpress on FTP:

* Plays 10NL and buys in for $2.
* Has two moves: all-in or fold. Never even completes the small blind.
* If wins an all-in (and always shows down mid to high pairs or AK-AJ), immediately leaves the table

The player multitables, never talks (even when asked if he/she is a bot) and has 7/7/0 stats after about 200 hands I've played against it.

I realize that creating a bot at 10NL seems extremely -EV, but maybe it's someone trying to design a bot and is testing it at low levels? I can't imagine someone not getting bored out of their mind playing the way described above.

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For sure it is a bot. I created this same design for a CS project in university 5 years ago or so.

The easiest logic is to write a short stack nl bot because there are the fewest variables, and it can play a winning strategy at the low levels just by open shoving AK/AA/KK and QQ and nothing more.

I don't get where you finding -EV in this strategy at $10nl. Your logic is certainly not off that it is impossible for someone to serious play 7/7/0 at $10nl without being a bot.

timmay28 11-04-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
Watching it now... seems like if its a limped pot and the bot is in the BB it will also push a lot of draws on the flop.

Chilltown 11-04-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
I saw him manually post a blind just now...

Dunno what that means lol.

muxplust 11-04-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
wp chess


Full Tilt Poker Game #4069152199: Table Fazio (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:29:01 ET - 2007/11/04
Seat 1: jt75 ($4.70)
Seat 2: VladAkaMag ($13)
Seat 3: JSHOWTHEKING ($1.95)
Seat 4: gresh1022 ($3.15)
Seat 5: ChessExpress ($1.85)
Seat 6: butcher1983 ($6.55)
gresh1022 posts the small blind of $0.05
ChessExpress posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
butcher1983 folds
jt75 folds
VladAkaMag folds
JSHOWTHEKING folds
gresh1022 calls $0.05
ChessExpress raises to $1.85, and is all in
gresh1022 has 15 seconds left to act
gresh1022 folds
Uncalled bet of $1.75 returned to ChessExpress
ChessExpress mucks
ChessExpress wins the pot ($0.20)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.20 | Rake $0
Seat 1: jt75 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: VladAkaMag didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: JSHOWTHEKING (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: gresh1022 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: ChessExpress (big blind) collected ($0.20), mucked
Seat 6: butcher1983 didn't bet (folded)

wattascoop 11-04-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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I don't get where you finding -EV in this strategy at $10nl. Your logic is certainly not off that it is impossible for someone to serious play 7/7/0 at $10nl without being a bot.

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Over, say, 10,000 hands, how much could someone make with a strategy like this?

muxplust 11-04-2007 06:39 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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I don't get where you finding -EV in this strategy at $10nl. Your logic is certainly not off that it is impossible for someone to serious play 7/7/0 at $10nl without being a bot.

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Over, say, 10,000 hands, how much could someone make with a strategy like this?

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before or after FTP bans him?

Casper0 11-04-2007 07:42 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
Didn't bother reading anything but the title of this thread but...

Doubt he's a bot as I just clicked on Sunday Mill lobby and saw him in top 50.

faststeady 11-04-2007 08:23 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
he's from the pokerstrategy site as this is the exact sss they teach those slippery germans. they have saturated party and are now spreading their wings

very easy to play against

kickpushcoast 11-04-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
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A pm is a private message

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and Mr. Gatorade is a bot-hunter.

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someone should make a bot that pm's mrgatorade whenever there is a suspected bot

ChessExpress 11-12-2007 11:01 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
I am ChessExpress and yes I have no life and am asocial. And please raise my BB

hoyasaxa 11-12-2007 11:09 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
roooooooooofl i have chessexpress down 6 bis over more than 2k hands. buying in for 2 dollars at a time.

he had the nerve to open shove 3 hands in a row and pick up kings when i had queens. cost me two dollars.

TonyRoflmao 11-12-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
ummm, you guys realize the rake at FT NL10 is 10% right?

Justin Smith 11-12-2007 11:32 PM

Re: Is ChessExpress on FTP a bot?
 
no


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