3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

Villain is bamyeah, a good TAG regular. I'm playing maybe 23/20 or so at this table and have been 3betting him pretty liberally. He's been folding to almost all of them, though the majority have been when I was in position. Anyone like this 3rd barrel? Also, I think turn betsize is interesting. I wanted to make it a size that set up a potsized shove on the river. And I think it's small enough that he has to raise sets as the board just got a bit more drawy. So I can define his hand pretty well as QQ-TT and occassionaly AK if he calls, it lets me get away cheaper when he's not folding, and he's probably rarely bluff raising. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $104.40
UTG: $186.10
CO: $200
BTN: $409.50
Hero (SB): $529.05

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $18

Flop: ($52) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, BTN calls $36

Turn: ($124) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $72</font>, BTN calls $72

River: ($268) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $396.05 and is All-In</font>, (about $275 for him to call)

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

why play big pots against shpanko? From what i have read from him, he seems pretty solid.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

I like your thinking. I think this kind of play will be really good against good thinking players. One thing i dont like, u risking all stack to take 268 pot, but if u barrel turn imho this shove is best play against this player.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

QQ-TT? unlikely. considering your pf tendancies, i think this could be ok.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

Don't really like the size of the turn bet as it looks kinda like you're doing what you're doing. Still this isn't too bad once in a while providing you two play together a lot.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

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why play big pots against shpanko? From what i have read from him, he seems pretty solid.

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You're prolly right, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend that the entire table is filled w/ shpankos, this is the only table running, and if I don't play poker my heart will explode. So looking for +EV spots anywhere I can get them.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

If I wanted to continue after the flop I'd make a bigger turn-bet and then just give up.

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If I wanted to continue after the flop I'd make a bigger turn-bet and then just give up.

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why play big pots against shpanko? From what i have read from him, he seems pretty solid.

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You're prolly right, but for the sake of argument, let's pretend that the entire table is filled w/ shpankos, this is the only table running, and if I don't play poker my heart will explode. So looking for +EV spots anywhere I can get them.

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I lol'ed. That'd be awesome. One huge spew fest.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

FWIW I like the river shove, I agree you should make the turn bet a bit bigger if you're going to do this.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

what happened you called with AK?

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

I called with TT :P

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I called with TT :P

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Oh wait; didn't we see this hand in the cheesethread already?

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

haha these hands never get posted when villain folds. But when villain calls with the nuts or something they all come running to the strat forum

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

sick turn call jesus. if he's calling the turn with &lt;Kx you have to shove the river yeah

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

Yeah, shpanko said in the cheesethread he felt he sucked out because he couldn't call the river bet if he didn't set up.

Re: 3 barrels deep vs. Shpanko
 

If you really think he's calling the turn with QQ-TT, then yeah, bet.