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this just occured to me when i realized the niners traded this year's first round pick to the [censored] patriots.

this is starting to get unfair

they're already arguably the greatest team ever assembled, now they get a [censored] top 5, maybe top 3 pick in the draft in spite of the fact that they may run the table?

how [censored] sick good can one team run?

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is it really their fault? blame that on the 9ers

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I don't think the Pats will want to use the top 5 pick, though. I expect it to be traded.

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Didn't the commish take it away? Or, nm. I guess they had two and this one is the 49ers pick. Right?

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don't they lose the pick?

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they lost their own pick, they keep the one they got from the 49'ers. they could have had 2 1st rounders, now THAT would have been ridiculous.

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if they end up getting something like 2 firsts and a second for that pick i'll be disgusted. If they end up having to devote a ton of cap space to some player who is a year or two away from making a major impact in the league then I think it is good for everyone else.

I wonder who they would they take if it is top 5 and they don't trade it. Jake Long?

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the most pressing need would be a ILB to replace Bruschi/Seau. other top picks will likely be a CB (if they don't resign Asante) or a WR (if they don't resign Moss).

Pats are pretty sat at both lines

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I think its very unlikely this a top 5 pick. The Niners have been hurt and have a very easy schedule remaining:

Sun 11/4 at Atlanta 1:00 pm
Mon 11/12 at Seattle 8:30 pm
Sun 11/18 St. Louis 4:15 pm
Sun 11/25 at Arizona 4:05 pm
Sun 12/2 at Carolina 1:00 pm
Sun 12/9 Minnesota 4:05 pm
Sat 12/15 Cincinnati 8:15 pm
Sun 12/23 Tampa Bay 8:15 pm
Sun 12/30 at Cleveland 1:00 pm

Their toughest remaining game is the Browns. They're most likely going to be 7-9/6-10.

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If they end up having to devote a ton of cap space to some player who is a year or two away from making a major impact in the league then I think it is good for everyone else.

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Already good teams don't (and shouldn't) draft this way. See Addai, Joseph.

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Jake Long?

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Exactly.

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Good idea for a thread.

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If they end up having to devote a ton of cap space to some player who is a year or two away from making a major impact in the league then I think it is good for everyone else.

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Already good teams don't (and shouldn't) draft this way. See Addai, Joseph.

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Jake Long?

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Exactly.

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Jake Long won't drop to this pick.

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San Francisco will probably be a dog in every one of those games.

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San Francisco will probably be a dog in every one of those games.

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They might very well be, but they are still going to win a few of them. If they're going to go bottom 5, this game at Atlanta is a must lose.

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Who did the niners get in this trade?

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Who did the niners get in this trade?

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It was a draft day deal.

San Francisco 49ers: Acquire pick No. 28 (selected OT Joe Staley).
New England Patriots: Acquire pick No. 110 and a first-round pick in 2008.

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Their toughest remaining game is the Browns. They're most likely going to be 7-9/6-10.

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The niners are horrible. No way they go 5-4 or even 4-5 for the rest of the season. THEY CANT SCORE A TOUCHDOWN. They are easily 0-7 right now. The Atlanta game this week is the low point I've had as a niners fan. I really don't even care about the outcome. I can't remember feeling like that before about the niners.

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San Francisco will probably be a dog in every one of those games.

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They might very well be, but they are still going to win a few of them. If they're going to go bottom 5, this game at Atlanta is a must lose.

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So they'll be a dog the rest of the way but still win 4 games?

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San Francisco will probably be a dog in every one of those games.

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They might very well be, but they are still going to win a few of them. If they're going to go bottom 5, this game at Atlanta is a must lose.

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So they'll be a dog the rest of the way but still win 4 games?

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You can nitpick it to death but point of my statement is that this will not be a top 5 pick. If you want to bet on that then speak up.

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All I'm trying to do is make sense of what you're saying. Do you think they'll finish 6-10?

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ah

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You can nitpick it to death but point of my statement is that this will not be a top 5 pick.

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All I'm trying to do is make sense of what you're saying. Do you think they'll finish 6-10?

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I think it's pretty clear JoA. LOL. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I think they'll be favored at home vs. the Rams.

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Cinncinati said they might trade Chad Johnson. Maybe the Pats give them this pick.

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Cinncinati said they might trade Chad Johnson. Maybe the Pats give them this pick.

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Yeah because the Pats might be suddenly stupid. No way they trade a high first rounder for a WR with a fat contract. They have proven that the market for WRs doesn't require such a high price. 101

And I don't think anyone in the Bengals management has actually said anything about trading the Ocho, its all media spec.

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I would assume Pats try to resign Moss and let Donte walk.

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Their toughest remaining game is the Browns. They're most likely going to be 7-9/6-10.

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lolz. Not a chance.

The Niners are terrible. Quite possibly the worst team in the league, even worse than the Rams and Dolphins.

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no way they are worse than the dolphins, esp w/ ronnie brown out for the season.

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Their toughest remaining game is the Browns. They're most likely going to be 7-9/6-10.

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lolz. Not a chance.

The Niners are terrible. Quite possibly the worst team in the league, even worse than the Rams and Dolphins.

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Um...no. And I'm a Rams fan.

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I think St. Louis > San Francisco > Miami now that Stephen Jackson is back and Ronnie Brown is out. Not that it matters much.

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i cant believe no one bitched at OP who is obviously a Pats fan.

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I think St. Louis > San Francisco > Miami now that Stephen Jackson is back and Ronnie Brown is out. Not that it matters much.

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The Steven Jackson that ran the ball 21 times for 60 yards when SF won at St. Louis? Doesn't much matter who is back there with that awful line.

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MCFADDEN!!!

PATRIOTS ONE TIME

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Noodle, the Rams dominated against the Niners and were unlucky to lose. Their offense is more competitive than you're giving it credit for. They still suck obv.

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29 OAK -30.0% 30 -23.5% 2-5 -17.7% 29 6.6% 21 -5.6% 30
30 NYJ -31.2% 29 -32.9% 1-7 -8.6% 23 27.0% 32 4.4% 7
31 STL -40.4% 31 -41.5% 0-8 -22.4% 30 13.7% 27 -4.4% 26
32 SF -50.0% 32 -44.8% 2-5 -34.1% 32 18.8% 30 3.0% 9

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29 OAK -30.0% 30 -23.5% 2-5 -17.7% 29 6.6% 21 -5.6% 30
30 NYJ -31.2% 29 -32.9% 1-7 -8.6% 23 27.0% 32 4.4% 7
31 STL -40.4% 31 -41.5% 0-8 -22.4% 30 13.7% 27 -4.4% 26
32 SF -50.0% 32 -44.8% 2-5 -34.1% 32 18.8% 30 3.0% 9

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Kyro, forgive me but I have no idea what I'm looking at.

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San Francisco will probably be a dog in every one of those games.

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They might very well be, but they are still going to win a few of them. If they're going to go bottom 5, this game at Atlanta is a must lose.

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So they'll be a dog the rest of the way but still win 4 games?

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You can nitpick it to death but point of my statement is that this will not be a top 5 pick. If you want to bet on that then speak up.

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I'd rather bet the under on 5.5 wins.

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29 OAK -30.0% 30 -23.5% 2-5 -17.7% 29 6.6% 21 -5.6% 30
30 NYJ -31.2% 29 -32.9% 1-7 -8.6% 23 27.0% 32 4.4% 7
31 STL -40.4% 31 -41.5% 0-8 -22.4% 30 13.7% 27 -4.4% 26
32 SF -50.0% 32 -44.8% 2-5 -34.1% 32 18.8% 30 3.0% 9

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Kyro, forgive me but I have no idea what I'm looking at.

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All you need to know is SF is #32.

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28 Atlanta Falcons = 14.14 1 6 0 21.22( 8) 0 3 0 | 0 3 0 | 15.12 26 | 12.94 30
29 New York Jets = 13.93 1 7 0 20.19( 21) 0 3 0 | 0 3 0 | 10.98 30 | 15.91 26
30 Miami Dolphins = 13.81 0 8 0 21.92( 5) 0 3 0 | 0 4 0 | 8.10 31 | 16.66 25
NFL 2007 through games of October 29 Monday (week 8)
HOME ADVANTAGE= 3.22 RATING W L T SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16 | ELO_CHESS | PURE POINTS
31 San Francisco 49ers = 11.25 2 5 0 16.87( 30) 0 2 0 | 0 2 0 | 11.94 29 | 10.37 31
32 St. Louis Rams = 6.03 0 8 0 18.28( 26) 0 1 0 | 0 2 0 | 5.81 32 | 6.17 32

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29 OAK -30.0% 30 -23.5% 2-5 -17.7% 29 6.6% 21 -5.6% 30
30 NYJ -31.2% 29 -32.9% 1-7 -8.6% 23 27.0% 32 4.4% 7
31 STL -40.4% 31 -41.5% 0-8 -22.4% 30 13.7% 27 -4.4% 26
32 SF -50.0% 32 -44.8% 2-5 -34.1% 32 18.8% 30 3.0% 9

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Kyro, forgive me but I have no idea what I'm looking at.

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