5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Villain is Im2Fast. Don't think i've ever played him HU but his HU stats are 57/53/2.9. The match has just started and we've both been in line - but I know that he's not the tightest player in the world and is capable of getting WAY out of line.

Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $1,663
BB: $1,094

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $30</font>, BB calls $20

Flop: ($60) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $200</font>, Hero calls $160

Turn: ($460) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $300</font>, <font color="red">Hero ???

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

trivially easy push?

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Eh? You're not contemplating a fold, are you? I'd just shove, probably. Calling down is fine as well. Folding has to be pretty bad given one hand beats us and he appears more than capable of bluffing here or even value stacking himself with KJ.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

this isn't bbv forum

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Are you guys felting KJ too?

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this isn't bbv forum

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[censored] off.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

i think the decision between whether calling or shoving is better is pretty tough.

i think i usually call / call.

but looking at the stack sizes, i think it's better just to shove here.

although him raising 40 -&gt; $200 doesn't make me too happy. he has Q10 here, but not enough to fold

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

i think shoving turn is &gt; calling turn, although i don't mind calling turn and hoping he shoves river. i can't imagine this is ever a fold to be honest. if you're beat here, it's a cooler, and you move on, but never ever fold.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

ugh I feel like this is a straight soooooo much....

Hard to get away when that's the only hand you're worried about though.

I think I prefer calling down, I just don't see him calling a shove with anything worse, given your dynamic, and at most he has a 7 outer with AQ, much more often 4 or less.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Heh. Its amazing how spot on Big Jim's posts are. Although the first few posts indicated this was a "trivally" easy push (I did push, LDO) - on this board I'm not sure if pushing is actually the best play. It lets his bluffs or weak aces or whatever off the hook. Cuz really what worse hands is he gonna call with?

Anyway, I shoved and villain turbo called w/ Q-T.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Meh, I feel like this used to always be a straight but now you'll actually see other stuff.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

Is he really going to bluff like 500 into 1k on the river? I guess it depends on what he thinks of you, and whether you peel again with KQ/KT/Ax. I think most players would expect you to fold those on turn, but will give you credit when you call turn. But folding river just seems so sick, and being incorrect costs a ton so I would just jam it if I thought I was good, or fold.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

I thought we weren't allowed to put people on hands when we have 2 pair. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Cuz really what worse hands is he gonna call with?

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I never understand this logic. If we shove and HE FOLDS that is a good thing. If he only calls with better hands then he isn't going to be calling very often.

If you were deeper I'd say calling down is an option but come on you're like so pot commited if you call the turn you'll have to a call a river bet so you're just asking to get bluffed off a Q or T river or something. And if he has a worse hand like KJ he may check it back and you lose loads of value for not shoving.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

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If we shove and HE FOLDS that is a good thing.

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Yeah, but not as good as when he shoves the river with the worst hand.

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you're just asking to get bluffed off a Q or T river or something

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The only river card that scares me is a K.

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And if he has a worse hand like KJ he may check it back and you lose loads of value for not shoving.

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And how do you figure he will get a chance to "check it back?"

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

my bad i thought he was oop the whole hand for some reason. but i'd still shove turn. r u just calling on the flop to induce an extra bet? if so i dont see how u dont shove the turn when he makes that bet.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

i dont think he ever bluffs this river if we just call. id shove and hope he feels committed with whatever he has.

Re: 5-10 HU - 2 pair but the heat is on
 

AQ has 10 outs. 3 k's, 3 q's, 4 t's. he's probably 3betting AQ preflop anyway though.