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Blackwater in a time of peace
Much has been written and discussed about Blackwater and it's heavy footprint in Iraq. I worry also about the prospects of a post-conflict-era Blackwater, assuming the United States will not perpetually be at war.
Blackwater has a 7500-acre base, replete with its own tanks, aircraft, and intelligence division. It is a multi-billion dollar corporation. Economic beasts like this do not simply fold without fighting for survival. What will Blackwater do in a "peaceful" era? I can only hope that Blackwater doesn't become a political police force for, say, a President Giuliani (or Clinton). |
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Much has been written and discussed about Blackwater and it's heavy footprint in Iraq. I worry also about the prospects of a post-conflict-era Blackwater, assuming the United States will not perpetually be at war. Blackwater has a 7500-acre base, replete with its own tanks, aircraft, and intelligence division. It is a multi-billion dollar corporation. Economic beasts like this do not simply fold without fighting for survival. What will Blackwater do in a "peaceful" era? I can only hope that Blackwater doesn't become a political police force for, say, a President Giuliani (or Clinton). [/ QUOTE ] Blackwater will do what they make most of their profits doing now, providing the worlds greatest military/LE and personal defense training, and providing private security to wealthy clientele worldwide. Iraq is just a "side job". As for the tanks, they'll go back to what they were used for, training vehicles to provide training drastically superior to what the US military provides. I've been through some of their training, its the best in the world. |
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They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace.
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They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace. [/ QUOTE ] I find this hilarious. I'm going to make a statement, let you bitch, then I'm going to explain why I'm right. Blackwater employees have never killed anyone, in any conflict, anywhere in the world, while employed by Blackwater. |
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[ QUOTE ] They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace. [/ QUOTE ] I find this hilarious. I'm going to make a statement, let you bitch, then I'm going to explain why I'm right. Blackwater employees have never killed anyone, in any conflict, anywhere in the world, while employed by Blackwater. [/ QUOTE ] I used to have a negative opinion of Blackwater. A lot of that changed when I watched Erik Prince's interview with Charlie Rose. Blackwater's services have the capability of doing some real good in the world. |
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Hopefully the military, along with the rest of the govt, will be dismantled after the AC revolution. Blackwater will probably be the largest company in the free market security industry.
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Hopefully the military, along with the rest of the govt, will be dismantled after the AC revolution. Blackwater will probably be the largest company in the free market security industry. [/ QUOTE ] I've got a feeling that Erik Prince would have some tough competition in that scenario. There probably wouldn't be many no bid contracts. |
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They would definitely have competition. But since they're already so large and well-established, they would be the largest security company for a few years at least.
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They would definitely have competition. But since they're already so large and well-established, they would be the largest security company for a few years at least. [/ QUOTE ] The problem is that Blackwater is far too advanced to fill most security contracts. I mean, can you really see these guys working mall security, or a mall paying them the amount of money this type of skill requires? Blackwater will probably make a ton of money in the training industry, equipping those who want to work at other security firms with baseline knowledge. Blackwater actually runs a private police academy in NC now, as a matter of fact. |
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Blackwater is just another blight, no, lets call it it what it is, a boil that disfigure perception that the rest of the world has of the USA.
They type of business (if it could be called a business [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) would not be allowed in most civilized country. A large part of their stated aims, although stated euphemistically, on their propaganda is to train and supply mercenaries or unlawful combatants according to the Geneva convention. This raise a number of questions not the least which are, for example: "Is the government and its military commanders recognizing that their training, and therefore their military, is incompetent, or nearly not as good as those motivated by greed?". I mean, Blackwater is used for the defense of US diplomats in Iraq and Afghanistan, lets not leave this to the army, they are bound to FU. If not the above, "Is the government deliberately using the stratagem of using mercenaries or unlawful combatants, to get their dirty work done?" It seems that they are not subject to a court martial for unlawful behaviour, unlike soldiers. And last, but not least, should the ennemy whoever it happens to be treat them the same way that the US treats "suspected" unlawful combatants, ie treat them with conditions similar to Guantanamo Bay, and no legal process applicable to them. My answer to the last one, to all Blackwater employess, since you are unlawful combatants or mercenaries, driven by greed (Well, you could always join the army, of course, you would not be paid as much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ), I think you should be treated similarly. I fail to see why you should not except than Guantanamo Bay is another legal aberration by the USA, thumbing its nose at international society. Whereas I have a lot of respect for the soldiers, and specially those who lose their lifes , mercenaries do not move my heart one bit. |
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My answer to the last one, to all Blackwater employess, since you are unlawful combatants or mercenaries, driven by greed (Well, you could always join the army, of course, you would not be paid as much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] They did. They served anywhere from 10-20 years, then retired. If you'd researched them, you'd be aware of that. |
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[ QUOTE ] My answer to the last one, to all Blackwater employess, since you are unlawful combatants or mercenaries, driven by greed (Well, you could always join the army, of course, you would not be paid as much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] They did. They served anywhere from 10-20 years, then retired. If you'd researched them, you'd be aware of that. [/ QUOTE ] So greed, rather than patriotism took over after 10 to 20 years in the army??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Well I do understand how that's possible. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My answer to the last one, to all Blackwater employess, since you are unlawful combatants or mercenaries, driven by greed (Well, you could always join the army, of course, you would not be paid as much [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] They did. They served anywhere from 10-20 years, then retired. If you'd researched them, you'd be aware of that. [/ QUOTE ] So greed, rather than patriotism took over after 10 to 20 years in the army??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Well I do understand how that's possible. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand people like you. Why on Earth do people like you automatically assume you're the worst kind of person because you retired from the military and decided to use the skills you learned there to provide food for your family? What in the hell is possibly wrong with earning a living? People earning an amount equal to the worth of the job they do is "greed" to you? Utter insanity. Edited to add And many of these guys didn't retire volutarily, they were forced, because they couldn't pass the physical anymore. As I told you the last time you started in on Blackwater, these aren't your everyday run of the mill infantrymen, these are the best of the best of the Special Forces, these are the Seals, the Rangers, Force Recon, etc. These are the men who wake up (while in the service) at 3:30am, run 15 miles, do 1000 pushups, 1000 situps, then go eat breakfast and then spend all morning training with their rifles then eat lunch and go spend 4 or 5 hours in brutal hand to hand combat training. After 20 years of that, your body would probably begin to deteriorate too. |
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I don't understand people like you. Why on Earth do people like you automatically assume you're the worst kind of person because you retired from the military and decided to use the skills you learned there to provide food for your family? What in the hell is possibly wrong with earning a living? People earning an amount equal to the worth of the job they do is "greed" to you? [/ QUOTE ] What I don't understand is that you are treating the world one way, jail all "suspected" unlawful combatants for years in Guantanamo Bay, no due legal process, probably subjecting most of them to torture, yet "if" they fought they didn't do it for the money. Should a US citizen choose to be a mercenary or unlawful combatant, he should be allowed to provide for his family. I guess he could be a pimp too, to provide for his family, or a mafiosi, or a drug pusher, or any other type of commonly, regarded as criminal, occupations. Utter insanity. |
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand people like you. Why on Earth do people like you automatically assume you're the worst kind of person because you retired from the military and decided to use the skills you learned there to provide food for your family? What in the hell is possibly wrong with earning a living? People earning an amount equal to the worth of the job they do is "greed" to you? [/ QUOTE ] What I don't understand is that you are treating the world one way, jail all "suspected" unlawful combattants for years in Guantanamo Bay, probably subjecting most of the to torture, yet "if" the fought they didn't do it fro the money. Should a US citizen choose to be a mercenary or unlawful combatant, he should be allowed to provide for his family. I guess he could be a pimp too, to provide for his family, or a mafiosi, or a drug pusher, or any other type of commonly, regarded as criminal, occupations. Utter insanity. [/ QUOTE ] Please link up an article about a Blackwater security agent capturing anyone in Guantanamo. I know you don't usually know much about the topics you speak of, particularly those concerning the US, so I'll help you out. The United States Military is responsible for that. These Blackwater guys, they're not out taking over cities, they're running convoys from city to city, helping people get supplies they couldn't get because religious zealots blow up any large truck they see, and protecting heads of state. No Blackwater security agent has ever captured anyone who is incarcerated in Guantanamo. Nice try, no one with a brain would buy it. |
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Please link up an article about a Blackwater security agent capturing anyone in Guantanamo. I know you don't usually know much about the topics you speak of, particularly those concerning the US, so I'll help you out. The United States Military is responsible for that. These Blackwater guys, they're not out taking over cities, they're running convoys from city to city, helping people get supplies they couldn't get because religious zealots blow up any large truck they see, and protecting heads of state. No Blackwater security agent has ever captured anyone who is incarcerated in Guantanamo. Nice try, no one with a brain would buy it. [/ QUOTE ] I never said anything of the kind! I was suggesting that should Blackwater personel be arrested/captured by the enemy, I would understand why they would be treated as "suspected" combatants were treated by the US in Guantanamo Bay,as just what they are; mere mercenaries, goons, guns for hire, worse than pimps. Surely so, according to the Geneva convention (I nearly gorgot you cannot invoke the geneva convention against US citizens [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ). |
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[ QUOTE ] Please link up an article about a Blackwater security agent capturing anyone in Guantanamo. I know you don't usually know much about the topics you speak of, particularly those concerning the US, so I'll help you out. The United States Military is responsible for that. These Blackwater guys, they're not out taking over cities, they're running convoys from city to city, helping people get supplies they couldn't get because religious zealots blow up any large truck they see, and protecting heads of state. No Blackwater security agent has ever captured anyone who is incarcerated in Guantanamo. Nice try, no one with a brain would buy it. [/ QUOTE ] I never said anything of the kind! I was suggesting that should Blackwater personel be arrested/captured by the enemy, I would understand why they would be treated as "suspected" combatants were treated by the US in Guantanamo Bay,as just what they are; mere mercenaries, goons, guns for hire, worse than pimps. Surely so, according to the Geneva convention (I nearly gorgot you cannot invoke the geneva convention against US citizens [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ). [/ QUOTE ] I still have yet to read of an incident where a US soldier was captured by the enemy in Iraq treated anywhere close to as well as combatants are treated in Guantanamo, let alone a Blackwater security agent captured and held to the Geneva Convention. We may get rougher than you feel is needed, which is an opinion I share, although we probably disagree on what "is needed" but I still have yet to see a story of US Military Police personnel beheading someone on video and shipping it to the media. Do you think that it is acceptable to allow people to starve because religious nutcases wants to blow up trucks? These trucks they destroy with IED's are often filled with essentials for survival OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE, food, water, diapers, you know, things that everybody needs. Guess what. Blackwater convoys transport those things too. Along with lumber, construction supplies, etc. We're getting off topic here. To get back on point, have you ever visited Blackwaters website? Link. Check it out. You'll see what they have to offer. Security in a warzone is a scary business. They are hated by the insurgents because they are a much bigger threat to them than the US Military can be. Blackwater cannot fail because, unlike the US Military, if Blackwater fails, the government will not just keep throwing money at them, they will fire them. |
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I still have yet to read of an incident where a US soldier was captured by the enemy in Iraq treated anywhere close to as well as combatants are treated in Guantanamo, let alone a Blackwater security agent captured and held to the Geneva Convention. [/ QUOTE ] As I said, the US doesn't treats unlawful combatant according to the Geneva convention, it is really much to expect mercenaries to be treated any better by any other sovereign country. [ QUOTE ] We may get rougher than you feel is needed, which is an opinion I share, although we probably disagree on what "is needed" but I still have yet to see a story of US Military Police personnel beheading someone on video and shipping it to the media. [/ QUOTE ] No much better kill women and children and then try to cover it up! By the way I am not singling out the US military police, I am holding the entire military infrastructure, lawful or unlawful (mercenaries) to account. [ QUOTE ] Do you think that it is acceptable to allow people to starve because religious nutcases wants to blow up trucks? [/ QUOTE ] No neither do I think 500,000+ civilian casualties to oust a regime that might not be quite the fashion anymore, although it definitely was a friend of the US, acceptable either. [ QUOTE ] Blackwater cannot fail because, unlike the US Military, if Blackwater fails, the government will not just keep throwing money at them, they will fire them. [/ QUOTE ] I sincerely hope that Blackwater fails and cost the greedy investors their lifestyles, and I think it is a distinct possibility should either the US government wake up to its moral authority or should the world opinion wake up to the monstrosity of greedy capital in times of unwarranted war and apply enough pressure. I mean much bigger, and even less ethical companies, like Enron did ultimately fail too, and it is far from the only one! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] That's the part I like about capitalism, nobody is exempt. |
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That's the part I like about capitalism, nobody is exempt. [/ QUOTE ] Wow MidGe, I had no idea you liked capitalism at all. I understand where you're trying to go with this, but I will not follow. You're trying to turn a thread about Blackwater into a thread about the Iraq war, and I'm not going to assist you in going down that road. I understand your point about the Iraq war, and coincidentally agree that the Iraq war is stupid and wrong. However, that has nothing to do with Blackwater, who is just over there transporting convoys and people. These hijacks are getting old. Please make all future responses in this thread directly concern Blackwater, and not the US military in general. Everyone here knows you hate America, but we're not talking about America, or current events concerning the Iraq war, we're talking about what Blackwater will do when the Iraq war ends. My point is, if you've got a problem with Blackwater, I'd love to hear it and debate you on that point. However, every post you've made thus far in this thread has been far more critical of the US military than of Blackwater USA. |
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[ QUOTE ] They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace. [/ QUOTE ] I find this hilarious. I'm going to make a statement, let you bitch, then I'm going to explain why I'm right. Blackwater employees have never killed anyone, in any conflict, anywhere in the world, while employed by Blackwater. [/ QUOTE ] care to elaborate or are you a lawyer and going to give a very narrow definition of "confict", "employed" or "employees." I can site recent news events, but those should be known to everyone here. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace. [/ QUOTE ] I find this hilarious. I'm going to make a statement, let you bitch, then I'm going to explain why I'm right. Blackwater employees have never killed anyone, in any conflict, anywhere in the world, while employed by Blackwater. [/ QUOTE ] care to elaborate or are you a lawyer and going to give a very narrow definition of "confict", "employed" or "employees." I can site recent news events, but those should be known to everyone here. [/ QUOTE ] Not narrow at all. Blackwater is a temp service of sorts. Different groups (government agencies, construction contractors, truck lines etc) put in requests for specific security needs, and Blackwater fills them. If anyone is responsible for the slaughter, it's those damned construction contractors and truck lines, being so greedy as to attempt to do business. Can you believe the audacity of those [censored]? And of course don't forget those selfish diplomats, who don't want to die but have government business to conduct in Iraq. Can you believe the pure arrogance and ignorance of those [censored]??? I can't. /sarcasm. People should really find out who they're attacking and what it is exactly they do before they attack them, but then, that would require taking the time to research, which very few people do. |
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They kill people for money. Let's not dress up the obvious.
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DblBarrelj and Midge: I think Midge is overly negative and Dblbarrelj seems overly positive. It seems as though you have automatically taken 'corners' in this debate. Blackwater has done some good work in Iraq and after Hurricane Katrine, but they also have some hazy cases hanging around - like allegations of improper fire discipline near innocents and insufficient security measures for their own personnel. They are also very tightlipped with information about their own personnel and casualties they have taken. It is a large organization, in a business that has a history of attracting both professionals and some rotten apples. I'm sure the truth is more grey than it is black or white. |
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Dont waste your time trying to have a reasonable discussion with Midge. He simply either isnt capable of it. |
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DblJ, Dont waste your time trying to have a reasonable discussion with Midge. He simply either isnt capable of it. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1. The Personal Attack rule will be expanded to include calling other users trolls and generic complaints about the worth of another poster's contributions. [/ QUOTE ] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] They are mercenaries for hire and there are enough conflicts in the world to keep them busy if our country is somehow at peace. [/ QUOTE ] I find this hilarious. I'm going to make a statement, let you bitch, then I'm going to explain why I'm right. Blackwater employees have never killed anyone, in any conflict, anywhere in the world, while employed by Blackwater. [/ QUOTE ] care to elaborate or are you a lawyer and going to give a very narrow definition of "confict", "employed" or "employees." I can site recent news events, but those should be known to everyone here. [/ QUOTE ] Not narrow at all. Blackwater is a temp service of sorts. Different groups (government agencies, construction contractors, truck lines etc) put in requests for specific security needs, and Blackwater fills them. If anyone is responsible for the slaughter, it's those damned construction contractors and truck lines, being so greedy as to attempt to do business. Can you believe the audacity of those [censored]? And of course don't forget those selfish diplomats, who don't want to die but have government business to conduct in Iraq. Can you believe the pure arrogance and ignorance of those [censored]??? I can't. /sarcasm. People should really find out who they're attacking and what it is exactly they do before they attack them, but then, that would require taking the time to research, which very few people do. [/ QUOTE ] So, let me get this right. Say there is a "protection firm" called good guys limited. Now people know that this firm is a bunch of hitmen, but they never kill in the name of "good guys limited". The firm is in big demand because people always have enemies. Now, this firm does what it does and people are killed--now are you going to try to tell me that its clients are at fault because they had a need for the type of business? Sometimes you have to call a spade a spade and go from there and stop trying to kid yourself and others. |
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Say there is a "protection firm" called good guys limited. Now people know that this firm is a bunch of hitmen, but they never kill in the name of "good guys limited". The firm is in big demand because people always have enemies. Now, this firm does what it does and people are killed--now are you going to try to tell me that its clients are at fault because they had a need for the type of business? [/ QUOTE ] It sounds more like to me that's what you're trying to tell me. I put the people who decide to engage a team of ex Seals and Rangers in a firefight at fault. I know if I were in that situation, it would instantly register with me that these guys were not to be toyed with. |
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They kill people for money. Let's not dress up the obvious. [/ QUOTE ] I am in the middle of an experiment, which, if fails, I will concede this argument to you. I have sent an e-mail from a made up address to BlackWater USA, requesting a "Disposal Project" of a bully I disliked as a child. If they respond with a price, I'll allow that they "kill people for money". If they tell me to DIAGF, I'll post the e-mail confirming that. |
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It is a large organization, in a business that has a history of attracting both professionals and some rotten apples. I'm sure the truth is more grey than it is black or white. [/ QUOTE ] I totally agree. I've never once said that every contractor Blackwater uses was perfect and moral. Some of these guys are downright horrible people. But, first off, sometimes that is exactly what is required, and secondly, just because you have a few bad apples doesn't mean the entire organization is corrupt. I've done some work in private security, mainly in the armored truck business, and I can tell you even doing armored trucks we had some real "cowboys". It takes time to weed them out, but eventually they do. |
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[ QUOTE ] They kill people for money. Let's not dress up the obvious. [/ QUOTE ] I am in the middle of an experiment, which, if fails, I will concede this argument to you. I have sent an e-mail from a made up address to BlackWater USA, requesting a "Disposal Project" of a bully I disliked as a child. If they respond with a price, I'll allow that they "kill people for money". If they tell me to DIAGF, I'll post the e-mail confirming that. [/ QUOTE ] Don't be stupid, them turning down your offer doesn't mean they never do it. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] They kill people for money. Let's not dress up the obvious. [/ QUOTE ] I am in the middle of an experiment, which, if fails, I will concede this argument to you. I have sent an e-mail from a made up address to BlackWater USA, requesting a "Disposal Project" of a bully I disliked as a child. If they respond with a price, I'll allow that they "kill people for money". If they tell me to DIAGF, I'll post the e-mail confirming that. [/ QUOTE ] Don't be stupid, them turning down your offer doesn't mean they never do it. [/ QUOTE ] That argument is asinine. I'm not going to bother to look, but I'm sure somewhere, someone can find a link to an article about a priest committing murder for hire. I'm sure someone else can find a story about a police officer doing the same. It is exactly the point. I don't care what some rogue did once, I care what is standard practice for the agency. |
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I'm pretty sure that Blackwater employees are under the control of the department of state or whatever other department once they get to Iraq. Some arguing against DblB don't seem to have access to facts and are just speculating.
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I'm pretty sure that Blackwater employees are under the control of the department of state or whatever other department once they get to Iraq. Some arguing against DblB don't seem to have access to facts and are just speculating. [/ QUOTE ] Another point is this. Average pay of Navy SEAL member with 10 years experience: $57,000 (including housing and salary) Average pay for Blackwater contractor : $215k annually. Do you see why the incentive is there on both the contractor and the agency not to [censored] up? |
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If they dont [censored] up, then why do you need immunity from prosecution?
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DblJ, Dont waste your time trying to have a reasonable discussion with Midge. He simply either isnt capable of it. [/ QUOTE ] VR, would you consider saying Blackwater employees never kill anyone to be reasonable discussion? |
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If they dont [censored] up, then why do you need immunity from prosecution? [/ QUOTE ] They don't have immunity from US prosecution. They have immunity from Iraqi prosecution. I'll let you figure out the difference, and why immunity from Iraqi prosecution would be needed for a US citizen protecting US interests in a foreign war zone. |
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[ QUOTE ] DblJ, Dont waste your time trying to have a reasonable discussion with Midge. He simply either isnt capable of it. [/ QUOTE ] VR, would you consider saying Blackwater employees never kill anyone to be reasonable discussion? [/ QUOTE ] It certainly is when you define "Employee" as someone who works for you. If you're interested in what Blackwater <u>employees</u> do, they work here in America, training law enforcement, military, and private citizens in various firearms and unarmed self defense techniques, and they work as mechanics, etc. The security agents work as independent contractors, they write invoices and have checks deposited into checking accounts. They do not work for Blackwater. They are screened, background checked, pass their firearms qualification courses, then are checked as "Cleared" by Blackwater, at which point they head over to work for various clients of Blackwater on a wide variety of security missions. |
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Erik Prince has stated that he feels that Blackwater contractors are under US jurisdiction. NO one can receive due process in an Iraqi court right now. Take a look at the glorified lynching which was the Saddam trial. If Blackwater contractors aren't subject to US law that is a problem that the government has created and must fix, but I doubt it is the case. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] DblJ, Dont waste your time trying to have a reasonable discussion with Midge. He simply either isnt capable of it. [/ QUOTE ] VR, would you consider saying Blackwater employees never kill anyone to be reasonable discussion? [/ QUOTE ] It certainly is when you define "Employee" as someone who works for you. If you're interested in what Blackwater <u>employees</u> do, they work here in America, training law enforcement, military, and private citizens in various firearms and unarmed self defense techniques, and they work as mechanics, etc. The security agents work as independent contractors, they write invoices and have checks deposited into checking accounts. They do not work for Blackwater. They are screened, background checked, pass their firearms qualification courses, then are checked as "Cleared" by Blackwater, at which point they head over to work for various clients of Blackwater on a wide variety of security missions. [/ QUOTE ] They don't work for the people that pay their salary? I must be confused |
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