big preflop spot vs. some random
 

PokerStars Game #13006072745: Hold'em No Limit ($10/$20) - 2007/11/02 - 23:13:58 (ET)
Table 'Thetis III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Trickybstrd ($3818.75 in chips)
Seat 2: jaymac111 ($2136 in chips)
Seat 3: CrAbLaR ($4244.55 in chips)
Seat 4: plghh ($1443 in chips)
Seat 5: jmc2536 ($1970 in chips)
Seat 6: DerekJC9954 ($9064.50 in chips)
jaymac111: posts small blind $10
CrAbLaR: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CrAbLaR [Qs Qd]
plghh: folds
jmc2536: folds
DerekJC9954: raises $40 to $60
Trickybstrd: calls $60
jaymac111: folds
CrAbLaR: raises $300 to $360
DerekJC9954: folds
Trickybstrd: raises $3458.75 to $3818.75 and is all-in

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

race that

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

meh, racing at best...i think i fold

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No one actually folds here do they? I snap call and I expect to see TT or JJ alot.

edit: his name is trickybstrd and he's some random, definitely don't fold qq.

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race that

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Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

Are you asking how long you should wait b4 you call off here so as to make him think this play might work?

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

wow..this is snapcall???????.

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Getting 1.2:1, [censored] I don't know. Appears to be a call against that range. I'm really not sure how to weight it at 10/20 for ~200bb.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.371% 50.99% 01.38% 214798848 5801790.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 47.629% 46.25% 01.38% 194824356 5801790.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

i'd fold this guy is a giant nit.

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

pretend you know nothing about him

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

fold this deep, call like maybe 130x or shallower

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fold this deep, call like maybe 130x or shallower

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def. you cant just look at your hand against TT-AA, AK, because some of those hands are more likely to be played in this fashion, possibly 2-3x as likely.

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not going to say call or fold cuz i dont think it matters much long term, however i'm curious about derekjc's tendencies when you 3 bet him pre.
does he call/fold more or 4bet/fold more?
i think knowing his tendencies when 3 bet this deep is pretty important.

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

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fold this deep, call like maybe 150x or shallower

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not going to say call or fold cuz i dont think it matters much long term, however i'm curious about derekjc's tendencies when you 3 bet him pre.
does he call/fold more or 4bet/fold more?
i think knowing his tendencies when 3 bet this deep is pretty important.

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Derek never will shove worse, and will call with a pretty wide range esp when he knows he will be overcalled. The fact that that is a really [censored] spot may make this a call pre, that seems crappy tho

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

time for a spite fold

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

seems like a pretty awful spot for villain to cold shove 200bbs with TT or JJ?

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this guy is so weird... i dont mind folding... i dont mind calling either...

prob fold though.

Re: big preflop spot vs. some random
 

Very rarely better than racing, and you're seeing KK/AA lots.
I like a fold.