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asillars 11-02-2007 01:14 PM

33 in $5.50
 
What play would you make here? First blind level so no reads.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1480)
Hero (t1480)
MP1 (t1900)
MP2 (t1540)
CO (t1420)
Button (t1430)
SB (t1570)
BB (t2680)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, Hero calls t20, MP1 calls t20, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t10, <font color="red">BB raises to t60</font>, Hero calls t40, MP1 calls t40, SB calls t40

Flop: (t260) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets t120</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t180

Turn: (t860) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t2320 (All-in)</font>, Hero ??

ronbo1964 11-02-2007 01:16 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
Instacall ...

malnek 11-02-2007 01:18 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
call. in general never fold sets in stts readless.

Webster 11-02-2007 01:26 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
Push it on the flop - don't be a baby! win that hand RIGHT now before anything bad can happen!!

As played - follow and pray!

mihs 11-02-2007 02:36 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
i don't know if webster is kidding... but that flop and the way it was played looks pretty harmless within villain's range. i'd say AK that villain overplayed as is quite common in $5.

pdiggz 11-02-2007 02:50 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
please don't ever think about folding here. easy call. in general don't fold sets.

Webster 11-02-2007 02:51 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
I never ever play a set weak - not kidding at all. It's only a set for gosh sakes!

Looks harmless NOW - but the a diamonds hits and then another diamond?

A 4 and then a 6?

What if he has 77 and a 7 hits!

you are doing battle for an almost meaningless amount of chips very very early in a tournament. you push and he MIGHT go with you. Or you wait and MAYBE something bad happens.

The key is not to win chips at this point - it's to survive and let others take their bullets.

Waterfall 11-02-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
fold preflop, as played obv get all in

Rek 11-02-2007 03:18 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
You played it fine. I can't agree with Webster at all. Harmless flop and I don't want to push the villain out. I want all his chips here. Most likely he has 2 overcards or a pp. Worst case scenario he has something like JJ and he catches a bigger set on turn or river. But with only 2 cards to come and 2 outs I want that risk. Suck him in and bleed him dry.

Doubling your chip stack here is not meaningless - don't mean you are going to win but doulbling here puts you in a great position.

If he catches a miracle here thats just too bad. Risk/reward here is too much in your favour. Long term this is seriously +EV

rakemeplz 11-02-2007 03:22 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
[ QUOTE ]
Push it on the flop - don't be a baby! win that hand RIGHT now before anything bad can happen!!

As played - follow and pray!

[/ QUOTE ]

One of the most contradictary posts ever.

DannyOcean_ 11-02-2007 03:40 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
[ QUOTE ]
I never ever play a set weak - not kidding at all. It's only a set for gosh sakes!

Looks harmless NOW - but the a diamonds hits and then another diamond?

A 4 and then a 6?

What if he has 77 and a 7 hits!

you are doing battle for an almost meaningless amount of chips very very early in a tournament. you push and he MIGHT go with you. Or you wait and MAYBE something bad happens.

The key is not to win chips at this point - it's to survive and let others take their bullets.

[/ QUOTE ]


This is such such bad advice. What if a bomb hit's my computer and blows me up? Stupid what ifs are meaningless, math and hand ranges are what's relevant. And we are crushing his range for a huge pot. arrrrrrrrrrrrrr in

ger664 11-02-2007 03:42 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
You could raise more on the flop but as played its fine on a super dry board. Ignore Webster here Shoveing to pick up the pot uncontested is throwing away an awful lot of Equity. Turn is always a call readless in a $5 SNG with a set.

You do not a read on villian here?? He has nearly doubled his stack in the first level.
How did he do this ??
If you do not know then you are not been observent enough.

DetroitHustle 11-02-2007 04:28 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
I probally reraise a little more on flop to set up a shove on the turn ,if it was a more drawy board that would be another reason to re raise more , but in this situation i do it to hopefully get my stack in on the turn . I dont think pushing over with your whole stack in this situation is right on the flop. Get it all in on the turn. Well from the looks villian did the job for u on the turn. Now i break my mouse hitting the call button.

QuadDamage 11-02-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
Villain probably has 2 diamonds, although AK would make a lot of sense also, as he'd probably reraise you on the flop if he had a made set. If he did actually set over set you, well just chalk it up as a painful but rare event that happens to us all every now and then.

asillars 11-03-2007 08:48 AM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
Thanks for all the advice. Anyway i called and he showed Q5 to double me up. Turned out to be one of the worst players ever. Went out on another bluff 5 hands later.

drzen 11-04-2007 02:15 AM

Re: 33 in $5.50
 
Can I just say how disappointed I am that no one suggested a fistpump or a holler of "YAHOOOOOOOOOO" before calling? These are the only valid reasons for not instacalling the shove.


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