NL200 flop set oop after 3-bet preflop
 

Villain is unknown, I think I have a tightish image, but Renton can confirm having been at the table for a while.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($177)
Button ($162.45)
SB ($200)
BB ($87)
Hero ($407.25)
UTG+1 ($204)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($96)
MP3 ($220.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($39) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $159</font>

Hero?

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Instacalls and wishes villain had bought in for 100BB?

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we shove unless villan is 4/2/.000001

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Fistpump + leap out of chair + pull abdominal muscle + lie in fetal position as table times out.

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If you are beat it's a cooler, get it in there with a smile on your face!

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I hope you are leveling us?

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What can you do?

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you should put your chips in the pot at the speed of phil hellmuth

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I read the title and hoped this would be 400BB deep or a complicated extraction question instead of an easy "c/r, get it in anyway possible." This is a really easy call -- sucks if he has AA/QQ instead of AK/AQ/A7/whatever else people stack off with here.

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fist pump and shove.

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fold

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who knew you would say this?

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LOL! Ok, I have to say I was rather tilted when I posted this

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Insta call, what did he have anyways?

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Well set over set is so rare and the only hands that can beat you are AA, QQ. I think that he has one of those hands because don't think he could re-raise you with AQ. Well call and pray.

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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fist pump and shove.

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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no, only if the people you're playing with are so bad they are transparent?

AQ AK both stack off here, and that is enough to get it in.

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Im felting this 99% of the time, its a RR pot and villian is &lt;100bb deep, pretty easy push

1% being if its a reg. that only RR QQ, KK, AA pre flop

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.094 secs 157,978 games/sec

Board: 7h Qs Ah
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.768% 50.77% 00.00% 7539 0.00 { 7c7d }
Hand 1: 49.232% 49.23% 00.00% 7311 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, AQo }

His lame $2 bet could also be indicative of a FD but w/e, it doesn't even matter, call.

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.094 secs 157,978 games/sec

Board: 7h Qs Ah
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.768% 50.77% 00.00% 7539 0.00 { 7c7d }
Hand 1: 49.232% 49.23% 00.00% 7311 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, AQo }

His lame $2 bet could also be indicative of a FD but w/e, it doesn't even matter, call.

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How much equity do you have if you weight the likelihood of AA/QQ/AQs/AQo in a 60/10/6/24 ratio?

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.094 secs 157,978 games/sec

Board: 7h Qs Ah
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.768% 50.77% 00.00% 7539 0.00 { 7c7d }
Hand 1: 49.232% 49.23% 00.00% 7311 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, AQo }

His lame $2 bet could also be indicative of a FD but w/e, it doesn't even matter, call.

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How much equity do you have if you weight the likelihood of AA/QQ/AQs/AQo in a 60/10/6/24 ratio?

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tbh idk - that ratio does not apply to me.

i used to play 15/10 and now play ~22/17. if i recall correctly you play closer to 18/6 so people are going to play against us much differently.

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<u>This is not an instant call.</u>

You have to give an unknown credit for a big hand with a re-raise pre in full-ring. (AA/KK/AK min)

Obviously you can rule out KK given the flop action.

You'd expect AK to just put in a decent size bet on the flop rather than the [equivalent of a] check/raise.

What would your first guess be at which hand gets played like this most frequently? That is, an initial lack of interest on an Ace-high flop followed by a desire to commit his whole stack. (Usually a flop check and large turn bet/raise.) I doubt many would answer anything other than AA.

It is not OK to just call (expecting to see AA) and put it down as a cooler. How is it a cooler!? A cooler is a hand where you've no chance of getting away from it. All the clues are there in this example if you put a bit of thought into it.

I could often find a fold here, and save [make] money long-term because of it.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

14,850 games 0.094 secs 157,978 games/sec

Board: 7h Qs Ah
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.768% 50.77% 00.00% 7539 0.00 { 7c7d }
Hand 1: 49.232% 49.23% 00.00% 7311 0.00 { AA, QQ, AQs, AQo }

His lame $2 bet could also be indicative of a FD but w/e, it doesn't even matter, call.

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How much equity do you have if you weight the likelihood of AA/QQ/AQs/AQo in a 60/10/6/24 ratio?

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tbh idk - that ratio does not apply to me.

i used to play 15/10 and now play ~22/17. if i recall correctly you play closer to 18/6 so people are going to play against us much differently.

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A few will, but most won't- and if villain is unknown to you then it's most likely that you are unknown to them.

Besides, I was just emphasizing that you can't assume those 4 possible holdings are equally as likely.