Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

How do you usually play premiums hand from the blinds against TAA players? (I suppose that if a make a Re-raise, and bet on the flop, if he don't connect most of the time he will fold, and I want to keep him in the hands.
For example:

POKERSTARS GAME #12940912494: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/10/30 - 16:13:02 (ET)
Table 'Duponta' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Losicki ($40.40 in chips)
Seat 2: officepool12 ($9.80 in chips) 15/8/4.5(75 hands).
Seat 3: InJee ($10.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Top Ute ($20.65 in chips)
Seat 5: tituschalas ($60.85 in chips)
Seat 6: jet40 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 7: mlpp81 ($8.05 in chips)
Seat 9: hobgoblin 67 ($32.85 in chips)
Seat 10: buzzardmeat2 ($26.45 in chips)
tituschalas: posts small blind $0.25
jet40: posts big blind $0.50 14/5/1.7 (180 hands)
dm78: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tituschalas [ Ad As ]
mlpp81: folds
hobgoblin 67: folds
buzzardmeat2: folds
Losicki: folds
officepool12: raises $0.50 to $1
InJee: folds
Top Ute: folds
tituschalas: calls $0.75
jet40: folds
*** FLOP *** [ Kc Kd 2d ]
tituschalas: bets $0.50
officepool12: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [ Kc Kd 2d ] [ Qd ]
tituschalas: bets $1
officepool12: raises $1 to $2
tituschalas: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [ Kc Kd 2d Qd ] [ 4h ]
tituschalas: bets $1
officepool12: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tituschalas: shows [ Ad As ] (two pair, Aces and Kings)

1- What do u thing that he have?
2- What do u thing about my play before and after the flop?
3- I am a fish or a genius?
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Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

3-bet preflop.

If for some reason you don't feel like 3-betting preflop, then you should plan to check-raise the flop no matter what hits.

Yes, if villain was stealing with trash and misses the flop, he's going to fold and you'll miss a bet or two that you might have gotten if you had played passively. But you'll earn more when villain has something he's willing to go to showdown with, and defending aggressively with your big hands will balance out the times when you defend aggressively with marginal made hands and draws.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

Firstly: http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Regarding the preflop call, it's not a terrible idea heads-up against most players, but you should nearly always c/r the flop when you do it (and the rest of the time probably slowplay to the turn). That way you still get your deception and your raise.

I think the rest of the postflop play is good if you were folding to a river raise. It looks like he probably had Qx.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

thank you for your advices. The Villain finally has 9-9. The reason for call preflop it's to induce the BB enter to the pot also and to deceive the original Raiser.
regards.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

I always 3-bet preflop in this spot. You are missing too much value by not getting in more money when you are winning. Build the pot bigger so that the villain has more incentive to call down with his 99.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

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The reason for call preflop it's to induce the BB enter to the pot also and to deceive the original Raiser.
regards.

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I dont think that you should be trying to play your AA against more than one opponent by not raising pf.

Thats quite simply because even though you will remain a favourite to win the hand, you will become less likely to win the more opponents that you have.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

Calling with premium in the blinds is terrible. Think about how much pooflinging goes on in blind play without premium hands.

IMO fastplaying premium against a steal is one of the most profitable situations in LHE as long as you defend with other hands as well. If you need to slow play, a decent line if you get action on the flop is call the raise and c-r turn. (but I would avoid that line in this hand given the flop)

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

Welcome to the forums. Your pre flop and flop play are pretty bad. You need to be getting more money in on these two streets. I don't know that you always have to 3-bet AA but being OOP its the best way to go. If you do just call pre flop check/raise the flop and at least gain back the bet you missed pre flop. Calling the raise and donking the flop is usually going to be the way to win the least here when ahead.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

I misread the original post; I thought you were in the BB and I can see an argument for just smooth-calling there for deception purposes since the pot is already HU. I really hate your call from the SB. 3-betting in that spot is just about 100% mandatory.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

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Calling with premium in the blinds is terrible. Think about how much pooflinging goes on in blind play without premium hands.

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I should mention that last night I misread the hand thinking hero was BB. With hero as SB and BB to act I'd rather 3bet, simply because some hands will be correct to call 1 and if he has a hand he'll call 2 with, our PFR gets 3-5SB worth of other people's money in the pot. That's huge.

That said...how often do you defend your blind with a hand like T9s and flop top or second pair only to get aggressive with that? Lots of aggression goes on in blind battles but it's not all preflop.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

I'd 3bet this guy preflop.

As played, I wouldn't donk the flop. Do either a c/r on the flop or else a c/c on the flop with the intention of c/r'ing a safe turn card.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

* g *

1. Trip kings afraid of a flush.
2. 3-bet PF. As played you *might* try for a c/r but I would follow your line to SD.
3. I can't answer that because my I.Q. medal got caught in my gills.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

welcome to the micros.

wow, this is so out of tempo though.

basically
1. please use a converter (see prev post) for posted hands because they make the hand easier to read and remove screennames...posting screennames without other permissions isnt cool
2. raise preflop....its is for value, you are OOP so no need to get fancy and dont want to be giving BB 5:1 to call. if you MUST feel the need to slow then dont do it in spots like this (also note how certain flops make it hard to get value from him unless he has you toasted...well the same applies for certain turns and rivers....get them to put money in the pot when you can before those scarecards come)
3. if you slow play then CR him on the flop or turn. this will have benefits for this and future hands
4. if you are playing like a proper tag then youll be raising lots of other hands in this spot so you dont have to worry about giving away your hand...see this guy is openraising from 2 off the button and if he is decent he is raising any hand he is playing anyway...a reraise by you looks like a resteal not AA (unless you have a table image of being a nit)
5. dont post results as results dont matter to us and influence the resulting commentary...if you must post results then do it when it is clear youve gotten about as many replies to your thread as you are going to get (or at least 24hours)

so no you arent a genius in this hand....I see so many people at the tables complain about getting AA busted when they themselves played poorly...dont be that guy/gal.

dont worry though, this is the internet and most people post hands they played really badly as their first post so it is standard.

stick around, learn from the people here and gogogo

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

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How do you usually play premiums hand from the blinds against TAA players?

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I'd say always re-raise preflop at this limit.

Flop - Bet no matter what the flop is against one opponent. I can't think of a board I wouldn't bet AA againt one opponent.

I like how you played flop on. Looks like he has a K to me.

Probably terrible advice, but wtf.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

Pf is good if you are fairly new to the table (so that they don't know u almost always 3-bet or fold HU from SB [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ). Letting the BB in should be profitable according to stox. But I would CR the flop. I guess opp had AQ.

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

no no ban

leaving thread before it tilts me

Re: Playing Premium hands from the Blinds in PS 0,50/1,00
 

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Pf is good if you are fairly new to the table (so that they don't know u almost always 3-bet or fold HU from SB [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ). Letting the BB in should be profitable according to stox. But I would CR the flop. I guess opp had AQ.

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This advice hurts so much I could cry.