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The Blunt 10-31-2007 04:01 AM

3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
seems like a standard hand but i wanted to know what would be your most standard play in this situation and why ? and in what order would you 3bet, cc, or fold ? btw sorry for no hand convertor, i dont have any hand histories cause im on a school computer.

2/4 NL
utg 30/24/2 raises to 14
next player 30/12/2.5 cold calls
fold, and you on the button ?

edit- im high and forgot to say, your hand is KJs.

13_Xerxes 10-31-2007 05:00 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
3 bets if you like variance.
Don't like the CC, especially if the blinds squeeze a lot.
Fold looks solid here, that's an UTG raiseur.

You can't 3 bet for value, but to take the control of the hand and to win the dead money. If you are called by UTG, you're probably dominated.

So, fold > 3 bets > CC

0evg0 10-31-2007 05:03 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
mix it up between 3betting and calling like 40/60

JackAll 10-31-2007 07:38 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
I think 3-betting is kind of a waste cuz we hit a hand so often, why not see a flop. I would be more likely to 3-bet (or else fold) if it was offsuit.


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So, fold > 3 bets > CC

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Lol at fold being the best option

fees 10-31-2007 07:45 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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mix it up between 3betting and calling like 60/40

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luegofuego 10-31-2007 08:04 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
3bet never, call always

jcl 10-31-2007 08:16 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
call everytime except when utg is extremely loose then i might squeeze

lkjhgfdsa 10-31-2007 09:29 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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3 bets if you like variance.
Don't like the CC, especially if the blinds squeeze a lot.
Fold looks solid here, that's an UTG raiseur.

You can't 3 bet for value, but to take the control of the hand and to win the dead money. If you are called by UTG, you're probably dominated.

So, fold > 3 bets > CC

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emil3000 10-31-2007 09:33 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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3bet never, call always

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Cooper 10-31-2007 09:55 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
There is no cold call. UTG is LAG so I don't mind squeeze here. Call is good too.

Mossberg 10-31-2007 11:34 AM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
I think this is a pretty lame spot to 3bet. Just call it.

Laetus 10-31-2007 12:00 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
Brian says in a video you should fold in these spots w/ hands like JTs and QJs etc ... I think he's a good player so I say fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cashy 10-31-2007 12:20 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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3bet never, call always

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Jamougha 10-31-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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Brian says in a video you should fold in these spots w/ hands like JTs and QJs etc ... I think he's a good player so I say fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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No he [censored] doesn't?

cbboy 10-31-2007 12:33 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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Brian says in a video you should fold in these spots w/ hands like JTs and QJs etc ... I think he's a good player so I say fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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No he [censored] doesn't?

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For OOP, he did say that...

FireStorm 10-31-2007 12:55 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
Calling here is good, I might mix in raising a small % of the time.

jj12 10-31-2007 01:06 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
all in for meta

Laetus 10-31-2007 01:51 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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Brian says in a video you should fold in these spots w/ hands like JTs and QJs etc ... I think he's a good player so I say fold. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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No he [censored] doesn't?

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Mhe, misread the action. Thought we were OOP. Definitely a call in position.

jfish 10-31-2007 02:56 PM

Re: 3 bet, cold call or fold ?
 
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all in for meta

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